PALUBA

        Nosači su im sada verovatno prioritetniji, a i doslo je vreme da se mora birati u sta ce biti utrošena sredstva. Koliko para toliko muzike! Ovde su čini se prevagu odneli nosači.

Broj operativnih krupnijih brodova Rojal nejvi sada se vrti oko 20 razarača i fregata + podmornice, po mom računu 4 strategijske i 10 SSN.

Koji beše ovaj desno sa "O" deck letter, prvo mi pada na pamet Olifant, ali on je ušao u službu kao Hermes?

The deck letter system was introduced around the end of WW2 when for the first time RN carriers began to operate together in numbers as part of the BPF. Previously the carriers had rarely seen each other in service as they were spread out in different theatres as required. The Illustrious/Implacable classes looked a lot alike from the air, and the first four Colossus class light fleets were just joining the BPF too in 1945 (not forgetting the numerous CVEs also), so some form of deck recognition code system was inevitable. The USN had used the hull numbers on the decks of their carriers since the start of the war, but the RN opted for what were initially random deck letters, not associated with the ship's name other than by coincidence. Hence Formidable had the deck code R in 1945. Codes could be moved around as well postwar, as ships were passed into reserve or put up for disposal (R was reallocated to HMS Glory for example after Formidable paid off in 1947). Theseus had the deck letter T, Triumph had P, Vengeance had Q, Illustrious had D, Victorious had S and Y, Indomitable had A, Implacable C, Ocean O, and Unicorn Y. The French, Australian and Dutch Navies were also part of this system postwar, though the Canadians opted out and followed US practice (their three carriers were HMCS Warrior CVL20 with deck code 20, HMCS Magnificent CVL21 with deck code 21 and HMCS Bonaventure VL22 with, surprise surprise deck code 22). The Dutch MNLMS Karel Doorman had deck code D, the Australian HMAS Sydney had deck code K, Melbourne started off with deck code Y then in the early 60s changed to M. The French Arromanches had deck code H in the 50s, Clemenceau had U and Foch F.

 In the mid 50s, with rapidly reducing numbers of carriers in service a degree of rationalisation was introduced to align where possible the deck codes with the ship's name, as the code was also carried on the tails of the aircraft carried. Eagle had entered service in 1951 with deck code J, but in 1956 she changed to E, with the J code going to the newly refitted Warrior. Ark Royal was commissioned in 1955 with code O (as HMS Ocean was now just a training ship with no air group) but by 1958 had changed to R, as A had already been taken by Albion which had previously carried code Z. Bulwark had B from the start fortunately, but Centaur had been completed with an axial deck and ran trials with the deck code L. On acceptance she was immediately refitted with an angled deck and had her code changed to C, so perhaps this gives an indication of when the policy change began. Hermes was comissioned with code H in 1959, and Victorious emerged from her mammoth rebuild in 58 with deck code V.

 The three Invincibles were originally planned to all have 'I' names, Invincible, Illustrious and Indomitable, so deck code I would have been a problem as well as the fact that I is not very distinctive on a flight deck covered in markings, so each ship gained a deck code based on the second letter of their names. One assumes the had Indomitable not had her name changed to Ark Royal in 78 she would have had deck code D as Invincible already had N. Lusty of course got L. The next large flight deck in service was Argus, but as she is an RFA she was moved into the two letter code system of escorts and auxilliaries, becoming AS. Since then only the LPH HMS Ocean has been commissioned and recieved the obvious code O. Artists impressions of the two new CVFs show they will get the pennant numbers R08 for HMS Queen Elizabeth (deck code Q) and R09 for HMS Prince of Wales (deck code P), indicating a logical progression in allocations rather than random assignment as in the past.

Mnogo su to skupe igračke, čak i za nekadašnju Svetsku Imperiju!

Sad će godinama da otežu sa opremanjem, a stavljanje u operativnu upotrebu - ko zna kada će uslediti.

A i šta će im?
Oni su dobri ''šaptači'' amerikancima, koji su do sada bez pogovora izvrašavali sve imperijalne ideje rođene u glavama britanaca. A britanci i dalje misle da su i sada vladari polovine zemaljske kugle... No, sa jednim velikim nosačem - to neće moći!

Naivno sam mislio, da imaju još Tip 22 beč 3 u operativi... Barem po mom mišljenju mogle bi još da ostanu (ili kod Engleza ili kod nekog drugog). A oni njih razrezaše ::) Prodavali i beč1 i beč2, čisto sumnjam da ne bi mogli i trojke.

Do 2026 će biti potpuno operativan? Pa ko je tu lud?

...ostatak će biti ili stariji avioni ili će povećati broj helikoptera...

Kumbore, ako je bio poprečni presek, uzdužne pregrade si mogao da vidiš samo kao linije.

Nije verovatno da po celoj širini trupa nema uzdužne pregrade, a ako je ima (siguran sam da ima), nepropusna je. Zar misliš da je moguće da takav propust prođe sve nivoe provere projekta?

  Zavisi koje rebro je gledao . Uzdužna pregrada može da bude isprelidana linija ako je na tom rebru( uvek pogled s krme) na suprotnoj- pramčanoj strani . I nije uvek uzdužna pregrada nepropusna . U jednom prostoru - odseku može imati olake  i skalopne za prolaz vode. Ali je uvek ako je ima ,izkotirana s merom od cl ( central line - simetrale broda) .

S poštovanjem

Čudno, kako poleću sa velikim otvorenim poklopcima iza pilotske kabine.
Zašto?

To mora da stvara ogroman otpor prilikom poletanja.

To mu je usmerivac vazduha za pomocni motor!

Stvarno ce uskoro postati 51. americka drzava :)

Four 617 Squadron jets landed on HMS Queen Elizabeth in the North Sea

The F35s began initial pilot qualification period right away. 4 more jets likely to join soon. The jets will then exercise defending carrier group by maintaining combat air patrols (CAP), launching and flying strike missions on simulated land targets and being held on deck to launch at very short notice. This is the first complete deployment of 617 Squadron on the ship.

617 Squadron jets take off from HMS Queen Elizabeth during pilot qualification flights off the UK coast

On completion of 4 gruelling weeks of Operational Sea Training, HMS Queen Elizabeth arrived back in Portsmouth this morning.

Will come alongside at Victory Jetty (for the first time) for, brief rest, resupply and to collect 617 Squadron personnel and equipment before sailing for Carrier Strike Group Exercise CrimsonOcean

A short video showing HMS Queen Elizabeth arriving and being brought alongside at Victory Jetty, Portsmouth on her return from Exercise Crimson Ocean on 2 July 2020.

After being delayed for two days due to a handful of COVID-19 cases, HMS Queen Elizabeth sailed from Portsmouth this afternoon with six 820 NAS Merlin helicopters on deck.

Jets on deck – HMS Queen Elizabeth embarks the largest number of F-35 Jets at sea so far.

Two squadrons of F-35B jets, the RAF’s 617 Squadron (The Dambusters) and the US Marines Corps VMFA-211 (The Wake Island Avengers), have joined the 65,000-tonne carrier as she sails for exercises with allies in the North Sea.

With a total of 14 jets and eight Merlin helicopters, it’s the largest concentration of fighter jets to operate at sea from a Royal Navy carrier since HMS Hermes in 1983, and the largest air group of fifth generation fighters at sea anywhere in the world.

In this month’s group exercise, HMS Queen Elizabeth will be joined by seven Royal Navy destroyers, frigates and auxiliaries, plus other supporting units, to form a fully sovereign Carrier Strike Group, ready to fight on the surface and in the air.

The Carrier Strike Group will be put through its paces off the north east coast of Scotland as part of Joint Warrior, NATO’s largest annual exercise.

An inside look on the 65,000t warship.  With access at a special media event, we were invited onboard, in the hangars, the flight deck, the galley (1 of them) and the bridge.   HMS Prince of wales is one of the most powerful surface warships ever constructed in the UK.

Sektori gađanja CIWS Vulkan Phalanx.

On board HMS Queen Elizabeth for exercise Steadfast Defender

HMS Queen Elizabeth passing through the Suez Canal

The warships, auxiliaries and submarine that comprise the UK Carrier Strike group transited the Suez Canal on 6th July - heading into the Indo-Pacific for phase 2 of the CSG21 deployment.