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Title: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Minolovac on January 22, 2015, 08:48:24 am Pitanje za znalce. Top se nalazio na monitoru Sava za vrijeme NDH. Ima nekih (polu) informacija, ali ništa konkretno.
Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: jadran2 on January 22, 2015, 09:49:46 am Da nije neka modifikacija....?
[attachment=1] ---- Bas i nije..... ??? http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/photos/imperial-war-museum/czech-skoda-guns/flak-skoda-76-5mm-m28-l50 Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Minolovac on January 22, 2015, 10:25:36 am Obiteljka sličnost postoji. Mogla bi biti Škoda, i Z. Freivogel mi je napisao da misli da je škoda, ali nije siguran 40 ili 60 mm. Nisam uspio pronaći nešto o tim kalibrima, mogao bi biti i taj od 76 mm. Na drugoj slici mornar drži granatu, da li bi po dimenzijama mogla biti 76 mm?
Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Solaris on January 22, 2015, 12:39:52 pm Skoda 66 mm. iz pomorskog muzeja u Splitu ??
poz. Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Minolovac on January 22, 2015, 01:26:57 pm http://www.viribusunitis.ca/Jalbum/Viribus%20Unitis/3D%20Model%20Renders/slides/AntiTB3.html
Ne znam da li je ovaj u muzeju. To je top iz I SR. Opet ima neke sčličnosti i ovo je škoda, ali nije potpuno isti. Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Solaris on January 22, 2015, 03:13:31 pm Tesko je naci, buni ono sa lijeve strane cijevi ispred kupole.
Ovdje se bolje vidi granata 66 mm. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNAust_27-50_Skoda.htm poz. Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: jadran2 on January 22, 2015, 03:28:23 pm S lijeve strane je dio koji se nalazi na palubi; kao i s desne strane.
Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Minolovac on January 22, 2015, 03:47:47 pm Da Jadrane, ono je jednostruka bitva, sa svake strane jedna, u sredini je vitlo.
Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Solaris on January 22, 2015, 04:24:24 pm ???
[attachment=1] Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Morskoprase on January 22, 2015, 04:49:06 pm Amortizeri
Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: kumbor on January 22, 2015, 04:53:10 pm Dakle, neosporno je utvrđeno da je reč o Škodinom 7cm/50 BAG (ballon abwehr geschuetz), jedno od prvih formacijskih PA oruđa. "Amortizeri" su valjda povratnici trzaja po zvaničnoj terminologiji? Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Bozo13 on January 22, 2015, 04:53:28 pm KOliko sam pronašao, A-U dunavska flota imala je dledeče 7 cm topove:
Quote 7 (6,6) cm L/18: 7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/18 in Boots- und Landungs-Lafette C/95 (7cm S.F.K. L/18 in Bts.-u.L(dgs).L. C/95) simply: 7 cm Boots- und Landungs-Geschütz L/18 C/95 more simply: 7 cm Landungs-Geschütz L/18 C/95 (7cm Ldgs.G. L/18 C/95) (Qty: 42 on big ships; ~ 6 on smaller ones) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/18 in U-Boots-Lafette K/15 (7cm S.G. L/18 in U-Bts.L. K/15) simply: 7 cm U-Boots-Geschütz L/18 K/15 (7cm U-Bts.G. L/18 K/15) (Qty: 2 (S.M.S. „U 10“ & S.M.S. „U 11“) Technical datas and datas for ammunition of these guns are the same as Army's 7 cm Gebirgs-Geschütz L/18 M/99. 7 (6,6) cm L/20: 7 cm Luftfahrzeugs-Geschütz L/20 in Luftfahrzeugs-Lafette K/16 (7cm Lfz.G. L/20 K/16) (Qty: at least 4 (Flying Boat „G.2“; „G.3“; „G.5“ & „G.6“) Same gun as above (L/1, just with a little bit longer barrel. The proppelant was reduced by 1/3. 7 (6,6) cm L/26: 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in Schiffs-Lafette K/15 (7cm S.G. L/26 K/15) (Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats of River Danube?) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in U-Boots-Lafette K/15 (7cm U-Bts.G. L/26 K/15) (Qty: 5 (S.M.S. „U 4“; S.M.S. „U 20“; S.M.S. „U 21“; S.M.S. „U 22“ & S.M.S. „U 23“) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/16 (7cm B.A.G. L/26 K/16 (Zw)) (Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats and Monitors of River Danube?) 7 (6,6) cm L/30: 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Schiffs-Lafette K/10 (7cm S.G. L/30 K/10) (Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats and Monitors of River Danube?) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/10/14 (7cm B.A.G. L/30 K/10/14) (Qty: unknown.) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/10/16 (7cm B.A.G. L/30 K/10/16) (Qty: unknown.) 6,6 cm L/35: 6,6 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/35 in Zwillings-Schiffs-Lafette K/30 (6,6 cm S.K. L/35 K/30 (t)) (Czechoslovakian gun.) (Qty: 2 x Twins. Only on RPB (CZS) „Presydent Masaryck“ later PB (III.R) „Bechelaren“) 7 (6,6) cm L/42: 7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/42 in Schiffs-Lafette C/92 (7cm S.F.K. L/42 C/92) (Qty: 10 (1x1: S.M.S. „Albatros“ & S.M.S. „Nautilus“; 2x1: S.M.S. „Trabant“; S.M.S. „Planet“; S.M.S. „Erzherzog Rudolf“ & S.M.S. „Erzherzogin Stephanie“) 7 cm Küsten-Kanone L/42 in Mittel-Pivot-Lafette M.08 (7cm Kü.Kn. L/42 M.08 ) (Qty: unknown. Army weapon.) 7 (6,6) cm L/45: 7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/45 in Schiffs-Lafette C/97 (7cm S.F.K. L/45 C/97) (Qty: unknown.) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/45 in Torpedo-Boots-Abwehr-Lafette K/09 (7cm T.A.G. L/45 K/09) (Qty: unknown.) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/45 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/09/15 (7cm B.A.G. L/45 K/09/15) (Qty: unknown.) 7 (6,6) cm L/50: 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/50 in Torpedo-Boots-Abwehr-Lafette K/11 (7cm T.A.G. L/50 K/11) (Qty: unknown.) 7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/50 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/11/15 (7cm B.A.G. L/45 K/11/15) (Qty: unknown.) Izvor: http://www.wk2ammo.com/ Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Solaris on January 22, 2015, 05:58:40 pm Amortizeri To me i buni, predugo i vidi se samo jedan. Ima ovdje boljih poznavaoca od mene. Na axis forumu sam negdje pročitao da je u pitanju 7cm /L50, koliko je to točno ?? poz. Edit: i na kalemegdanu ima jedna Škodica 66mm, zna li se otkud je ona ? Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: jadran2 on January 22, 2015, 06:09:37 pm Amortizeri To me i buni, predugo i vidi se samo jedan. Ima ovdje boljih poznavaoca od mene. Na axis forumu sam negdje pročitao da je u pitanju 7cm /L50, koliko je to točno ?? poz. Edit: i na kalemegdanu ima jedna Škodica 66mm, zna li se otkud je ona ? Title: Re: Koji je ovo top? Post by: Minolovac on January 23, 2015, 02:58:16 pm E sad, koji je da je, zgotovio ga...
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