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Author Topic: Razarači klase Huszár i Tátra  (Read 58105 times)
 
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« Reply #210 on: August 24, 2013, 05:03:13 pm »

Ove nize cini mi se, do sada, nisu bile (nakon "susreta" s Bernouille Q83):


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« Reply #211 on: August 25, 2013, 09:42:22 am »

Sjajne fotke jadrane!!!! Ove sa doka u Boki su do sada nevidjene.
Ipak, cini mi se da prva fotka u nizu nije SMS "Cszepel", vec SMS "Magnt" nakon sto ga je torpedom pogodila italijanska podmornica "Salpa".....
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« Reply #212 on: August 25, 2013, 10:48:34 am »

Sjajne fotke jadrane!!!! Ove sa doka u Boki su do sada nevidjene.
Ipak, cini mi se da prva fotka u nizu nije SMS "Cszepel", vec SMS "Magnt" nakon sto ga je torpedom pogodila italijanska podmornica "Salpa".....
Marinero -
Po dvostrukom jarbolu na krmi, prva fotografija tocno prikazuje "Magnet"; kod ostalih fotografija, pretpostavljam da je sve "Csepel", iako za onu fotografiju sa parom podignutih krmenih torpeda, K.u.K. Kriegsmarine navodi da je i "Magnet", pa pod "Csepel" - isto daje za "Csepel".
http://www.kuk-kriegsmarine.at/

Jos jednom, bravo!!!
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« Reply #213 on: August 25, 2013, 10:58:11 am »

Jadrane, cini mi se da je fotka sa parom podignutih krmenih torpeda 100 odsto sa SMS "Czepel" i da je greskom ista takva stavljena i pod temu SMS Magnet na sajtu koji si naveo. Obrati paznju na top koji se vodi na toj slici i uporedi ga sa slikom Czepeove nedevastirane krme na jednoj od prethodnih fotografija - namece se zakljucak da je to isto brod. Tim prije sto SMS Magnet, za razliku od razaraca klase "Tatra" nije imao topove na bocnom dijelu krme, vec na samoj krmi. Ispravi me molim Te, ako sam negdje pogrijesio u ovom mom razmisljanju....
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« Reply #214 on: August 25, 2013, 11:03:49 am »

Nema greske  Smiley
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« Reply #215 on: August 31, 2013, 09:38:54 pm »

Razarači Prvog svjetskog rata.
Od vrha do dna : Almirante Kondell (Čile), Triglav (Austro-Ugarska), Schastlivy (Rusija), Campbell (Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo).
Umjetnik Alexander Dašjan (Moskva).


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« Reply #216 on: October 28, 2013, 11:03:15 am »


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« Reply #217 on: November 06, 2013, 05:16:07 am »

Fotografija prije nasukavanja i kasnijeg velikog remonta.
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« Reply #218 on: November 06, 2013, 09:32:29 am »

Nakon nasukavanja i potonuca krajem 1908. (navigacijska greska kod albanske obale), napravljen je u pulskom Arsenalu prakticno novi razarac, uz koristenje malog dijela prethodnog imenjaka.
Iz daljine se vidi razlika u visini dimnjaka....

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« Reply #219 on: November 06, 2013, 01:44:33 pm »

Samo jedna mala ispravka - nije stradao kod albanske obale, vec ispred Donjeg Grblja - tacnije na hridini Kalafat (seka Albaneze), sjeverozapadno od rta Žukovac, izmedju zaliva Traste i Budve Najblize naseljeno mjesto na obali je Bigova, oko 3 milje sjeverno od ove pozicije.....
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« Reply #220 on: November 06, 2013, 02:05:50 pm »

Po krajobrazu nasukao se u Dalmaciji. Griješim li?
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« Reply #221 on: November 06, 2013, 02:13:45 pm »

Ne grijesis. Tadasnja provincija (regija ili kako god vec) Dalmacija.....
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« Reply #222 on: November 06, 2013, 03:54:51 pm »

Samo jedna mala ispravka - nije stradao kod albanske obale, vec ispred Donjeg Grblja - tacnije na hridini Kalafat (seka Albaneze), sjeverozapadno od rta Žukovac, izmedju zaliva Traste i Budve Najblize naseljeno mjesto na obali je Bigova, oko 3 milje sjeverno od ove pozicije.....
Hvala Marinero. Gruba greska u koracima.  Sad

In 1908 belonged to the Squadron.
15/09
She was fitted up.
3/12
Sailed from Cattaro-bay at 07.00 hours and another captain was also on board because of the coast surveying. The des-
troyer passed the Cape Traste with 12 knots and then turned to a course of 163° toward Budua. The weather was clear with a slight northerly breeze. The ship’s captain gave over the navigation to the duty Lieutenant, and began speak with the other officers on the bridge. At 08.10 hours the ship ran aground on Albanese Rocks. Though the ship’s state was critical, the rescue seemed possible and they have started the salvage works. The destroyer was sitting on the rocks till the after boiler room and her whole fore part was flooded. They did not lose any man.
5/12
The Gigant and other ships (3 torpedo boats and one barge) arrived there. 130 tonnes of materials were discharged from the damaged destroyer, and on 10th December the SMS SANKT GEORG tried to tow down HUSZÁR from the rocks. The towing lines have parted. They stopped the further attempts because of the raising waves.
11/12
The salvage was finally stopped because of the very bad weather. The quarterdeck of the destroyer merged under water, and the deck was bent between the fore-castle and the bridge. The SMS ERZHERZOG FRIEDRICH who was present also, lost her anchor and her stern balcony and several skylights on quarterdeck were damaged.
12/12
The HUSZÁR slipped down from the rocks and sank. The Gigant left for Traste, the SMS ERZHERZOG FRIEDRICH put in the Bay of Cattaro. One barge sank and the one other was stranded on the shore. After the gale the divers searched for the sunken ship. They have found her broken to three parts in depth of 15 m.
19/12
The salvage was continued. Till March 1909 they have raised the parts of the 5 boilers and machinery, her armament and the stern section of the ship. The hull was lost. The stranded barge was cast off.
10/04
The Command of Naval Arsenal of Pola got an order to build a new destroyer using the salvaged remnants of HUSZÁR.
7/05
The captain of HUSZÁR, Lieutenant-Commander Renner was condemned for 4 month close arrest for the act in contravention of the Standing Rules and had not controlled the navigation. He had to start his penalty on 24th June (but on 18 th August the remaining part of his penalty was abolished). Lieutenant Bekker was condemned for 6 month arrest because of dereliction of duty and carelessness (but on 24th November he was released)

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« Reply #223 on: November 06, 2013, 04:54:11 pm »

Ma nikakav problem, jadrane, tu smo svi da damo svoj doprinos izucavanju ovoga sto nas sve zjedno interesuje i sto volimo.... Wink Hrid Kalafat je u AU pomorskim karatama inace, uvijek imenovana kao seka Albaneze po svom, u narodu prihvacenom imenu. Inace, AU karte su i dan danas jako interesantne jer vecinom sadrze stara imena toponima koja inace, u danasnjem modernom svijetu, na zalost, pomalo padaju u zaborav.
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« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2013, 11:07:49 am »

Зна ли се колико од "Хусара" данас лежи на дну? Рекао бих не мали дио али нема га на попису олупина црногорског приморја.
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