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« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2011, 03:20:59 pm »

... a da, umalo da zaboravim ... kako se ono bese zove sprava za osmatranje i nisanjenje na T-55? ... DNNS-1, ili ...  Wink
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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2011, 07:33:24 pm »

Uglavnom TŠ-22. Na malo komada DNNS-1. Na jako malo komada DNNS-1A.

Negdje se zove TŠ-2A-22.
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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2011, 12:05:36 pm »

... tako je Vlado, salim se ja malo , ne zameri ...  angel ... postoje 3 vrste sprava, i to su :

- TS-2A/22
- TS-2B/22
- TS-2b/32

... DNNS je serija koja je ugradjivana na poslednjim serijama, dok su gore navede sprave ugradjivane "fabricki" u petice po default-u, u zavisnosti od tipa (Poljaci, Cesi, Kinezi, Rusi) ... mi smo to zvali "polucetvorke", kao u fazonu GOLF 1 koji je napravljen 1984/85 i koji je u narodu od miloste prozvan "poludvojka" ... inace, svi tenkovi serije T-55 se nacelno dele u 2 grupe, a to su tenkovi starije i novije proizvodnje, pri cemu u stariju proizvodnju spadaju oni proizvedeni do 1968, a u drugu nakon ovog perioda ... razlike su znatne, i variraju od pogonske grupe, pa sve do modifikacija na samom telu tenka ... recimo kao sto je obloga na unutrasnjosti tela T-55A (protiv nuklearnog udara) ...
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2011, 05:04:59 pm »

Koliko se ja sjećam označavanja

na ruskim piše ТШ

na češkim piše TSh  itd. Drugi slovo je Š.
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2011, 07:07:54 pm »

... tako je Vlado, samo sto ja na ovom racunaru nemam instaliranu podrsku za cirilicu, tako da  Wink ... inace, ima li nekog ko zna sta znaci to TS(h) ... Shocked
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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2011, 07:10:15 pm »

To ti je napisano slovo Š na način bez kvačice.
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2011, 07:38:27 pm »

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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2011, 09:49:04 am »

Dobro jutro, uz jednu snimljenu u suton  Smiley


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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2011, 10:32:21 am »

Jedan Dan Tehnike ...

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Utovar municije pred vežbu ...

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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2011, 12:36:01 pm »

Poslije dugog premišljanja, fotka je ipak završila u temi o "petici"...
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2011, 12:38:49 pm »

Na prvoj slici čiste se mlaznice na evakuatoru barutnih gasova na tenku u pozadini, a na lijevom tenku su upravo sojili članak gusjenice.

Na drugoj slici sve je školski. Popuna municijom tako da jedna ruka pokriva i drži upaljač, a druga inicijalnu kapislu. Stariji vodnik je tu zbog slikanja. To inače radi vojska.
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« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2011, 01:50:27 pm »

Popuna municijom tako da jedna ruka pokriva i drži upaljač, a druga inicijalnu kapislu. Stariji vodnik je tu zbog slikanja. To inače radi vojska.
Владо,
да ли је могуће да дође до опаљења гранате ако се удари упаљач пре испаљивања? Требало би да постоји систем армирања упаљача.
У светлу тога ми се чини да рука на упаљачу више штити унутрашњост тенка него гранату.
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« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2011, 02:44:50 pm »

U samom upaljaču postoji inercijalni osigurač koji aktivira mogućnost aktiviranja upaljača tek nakon opaljenja granate. Dakle, treba sila koja se javi kod opaljenja da aktivira upaljač. Nakon toga on postaje aktivan. Na samoj ovoj granati koja je na slici postoji kapica na upaljaču koja se skida da bi granata bila trenutna. Ne smije da se gađa po kiši ili kroz lišće sa skinutim kapicom. Sa skinutom kapicom se gađa pješadija. Sa stavljenom kapicom granata postaje usporena tako se gađaju oklopljena i utvrđena sredstva. Na upaljaču postoji i mehanički prekidač sa kojim se upaljač prebacuje u režim usporeni ili fugasni. Ključ za prebacivanje rada granate sam objavio na ovom forumu. Municija se skladišti razdvojeno od upaljača. Prije popune topa municijom sastavlja se granata i upaljač. Za stezanje upaljača za granatu postoji poseban ključ u RAP-u tenka. Pošto se upaljač zna razlabaviti kod vožnje tenka može se kirnerom lagano udariti spoj granate i upaljača, te tako zaštiti granatu od odvrtanja upaljača. Na M84 nekoliko puta sam vadio sa poda tenka, iz obrtnog transportera, zaglavljeni i deformisani upaljač koji je spao sa granate. Dok ga inercijalni osigurač ne aktivira upaljač je bezbjedan.

Više detalja dao je Božo u http://www.Paluba.info/smf/osnove-artiljerije/municija/

Na novijim granatama se montiraju elektronski upaljači, dok su na starijim bili mehanički upaljači.

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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2011, 02:20:35 pm »

Kad već govorimo o tenkovskoj municiji za top 100 mm D-10 tenka T55 da kažemo i koliko košta pojedinačno zrno.

100mm D-10 APFSDS: Weight 21kg; Price $675
100mm D-10 HEAT: Weight 22kg; Price $650
100mm D-10 APHE: Weight 21kg; Price $650
100mm D-10 HE: Weight 22kg; Price $650
100mm D-10 APC: Weight 21kg; Price $425
100mm D-10 HVAPDS: Weight 22kg; Price $650
100mm D-10 AP: Weight 21kg; Price $500
100mm D-10 FRAG-HE: Weight 22kg; Price $635

Šta znače ove skraćenice

AP: Armor Piercing, essentially a large bullet with a hardened shell for armor penetration.

APC: Armor Piercing Capped, an AP round with a ballistic cap to cut through the air better and produce more speed. APDS: Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot, a round that uses a large explosive charge to propel a smaller penetrator at high speed.

APERS: AntiPERSonnel: A large shotgun-like round to defeat large numbers of enemy infantry.

APFSDS: Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot, an APDS round that is stabilized with fins, to produce more speed and a flatter trajectory.

APFSDSDU: Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot Depleted Uranium, an APFSDS round made of heavy metal. Note that after 1997, most of these rounds are actually made of tungsten, a metal that gives penetration comparable to depleted Uranium and is much safer and less expensive to produce.

APHE: Armor Piercing High Explosive, a round that attempts to penetrate the target with an explosion.

CHEM: CHEMical, a round filled with either a smoke-producing compound or poison gas.

Flechette: Also known as beehive, this round is similar in concept to APERS, but uses small metal darts instead of steel balls.

FRAG-HE: FRAGmentation-High Explosive, a normal HE round with a jacket of steel balls to produce more casualties among ground personnel.

HE: High Explosive, a hollow round filled with explosive to produce a large explosion

HEAT: High Explosive Anti Tank, a round with an explosive charge specially shaped to produce a plasma jet to burn through armor.

HESH: High Explosive Squash Head, a round filled with plastic explosive. The charge flattens out against the target, breaking off a "scab" inside the target and transferring kinetic energy.

HVAP: High Velocity Armor Piercing, a faster version of the AP round.

HVAPDS: High Velocity Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot, an APDS round propelled by a larger charge than normal, for more speed.

LAHAT: Laser Homing Anti Tank, a guided round that is more accurate at very long ranges than a normal tank round. Use of this round requires a laser rangefinder or designator. The target must be lased until the round strikes it. (Speed: 1500m per phase.) This weapon is fired using Tac Missile skill.

MPAT: Multi Purpose Anti Tank. This weapon may be used against ground targets and helicopters. Ground/air mode is selected by the loader by turning the nose fuze and requires one phase. Ground mode acts like a normal HEAT round. Air mode activates a small radar in the nose of the round.

STAFF: Smart Top-Attack Fire and Forget. This round is treated like a fire-and-forget top attack missile (like Tank Breaker). The firing vehicle must use the laser rangefinder during the phase the STAFF round is fired. This weapon is fired using Tac Missile skill.

TERM-CE: Tank Extended Range Munition-Chemical Energy, a guided HEAT round for long-range shots. Use of this round requires a laser rangefinder or designator. The target must be lased until the round strikes it. (Speed: 1200m per phase.) This is a top-attack weapon. This weapon is fired using Tac Missile skill.

TERM-KE: Tank Extended Range Munition-Kinetic Energy, a guided sabot round for long-range shots. Use of this round requires a laser rangefinder or designator. This round is treated like a fire-and-forget top attack missile (like Tank Breaker). The rangefinder or designator must be used during the phase the round is fired. The TERM-KEs speed is 1500m per phase. This weapon is fired using Tac Missile skill.

TERM-TA: Tank Extended Range Munition-Top Attack. This is a STAFF round with a rocket motor. Use of this round requires a laser rangefinder or designator. This round is treated like a fire-and-forget top attack missile (like Tank Breaker). The rangefinder or designator must be used during the phase the round is fired. The TERM-TAs speed is 1500m per phase. This weapon is fired using Tac Missile skill.

Thermobaric: This is an explosive round based on Fuel-Air Explosive, which saturates the air with gasoline or jet fuel and then ignites it.

WP: White Phosphorus, an explosive round filled with incendiary particles. This round also produces smoke as a side effect.


Kad smo već ovdje da postavim i sliku inicijalne kapisle na ruskim granatama.

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Aktiviranje kapisle može biti udarom i/ili davanjem napona 24 volta na kapislu. Na tenkovima T55, T72 i derivatima su ugrađeni mehanizmi koji na udarnu iglu u trenutku opaljenja dovode 24 volta. Naravno uz ograničenje struje na iglu. Ti otpornici su dva komada u paraleli od po 0,1 om i nalaze se u kutiji X1 na kolijevci topa sa donje strane.

Upaljače za granate je radio Čajavec, Profesionalna elektronika, Prostorna tehnika, pogon Šipovo.

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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2011, 02:48:16 pm »

Vlado!

Svaka čast za to.
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