Republic Aviation F-84 Thunderjet

[ssekir75]

koliko ja vidim ovo je 503

pvde, i think you're right

[pvde67]

koliko ja vidim ovo je 503

pvde, i think you're right

Thank you!

Does any forum member of PALUBA have a list of former JRV F-84G, when they were preserved, scrapped, decoy AFTER their JRV-service?
Thus not only those still 'somewhere' but also those which were lost due to any reason, since 1974?

[pvde67]

Zemunik base circa 1969/70.

13 pcs of F84G

Does anybody knows which 13 F-84G serial numbers are in this picture?

[s53ra]

Brnik (LJLJ), 1988 g.
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[MOTORISTA]

Does any forum member of PALUBA have a list of former JRV F-84G, when they were preserved, scrapped, decoy AFTER their JRV-service?

Sorry, but we are still trying to make a complete table.

[Solaris]

Još ga lešinari nisu raznjeli, Bileća.

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poz.

[ZuluDelta]

Koliko se ovom može vjerovti?

51-752
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*USAF 137th FBW, in Europe.
*USAF 48th FBW, in Europe.
*9/1954: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-193".
*26th Squadron (9th Wing), at Bierset AB.
*9/1957: Returned to the USAF.
*9/16/1957: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
51-692/996      Republic F-84G-1-RE Thunderjet
752 to Belgium as FZ-193.  To Yugoslav AF Sep 16, 1957.
            

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51-882
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*USAF 137th FBW, at Alexandria AFB, LA.
*USAF 48th FBW, at Chaumont AB, France.
*8/1954: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-189".
*Converted to RF-84G.
*42nd Squadron, at Brustem AB as “H8-C“.
*7/27/1957: Returned to the USAF.
*7/27/1957: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
882 to Belgium as FZ-189.  To Yugoslav AF Jul 27, 1957.

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51-1138
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*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10570".
51-9736
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*4/1952: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-35".
*1st Squadron (2nd Wing), at Florennes AB as “3R-O”
*23rd Squadron (10th Wing), at Kleine Brogel AB.
*7/27/1956: Returned to the USAF. Or 1957?
*7/1956: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
51-1117/1226      Republic F-84G-15-RE Thunderjet
1138 (c/n 3235-1761) to Yugoslavian AF as JRV 10570.

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51-10166
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*7/1952: Transferred to the Dutch AF as "K-71".
*311 Squadron, at Volkel AB.
*306 Squadron, at Deelen AB.
*313 Squadron, at Volkel AB as “TA-3”.
*312 Squadron, at Volkel AB.
*315 Squadron, at Eindhoven AB.
*10/1957: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
51-9965/10304      Republic F-84G-11-RE Thunderjet
10166 to Netherlands AF as K-71.  Later to Yugoslavian AF

51-10180
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*7/1952: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-68".
*7/27/1957: Returned to the USAF. Date wrong?
*1957: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF. In 1955 if above date is wrong?
10180 to Belgium as FZ-68.  To Yugoslav AF

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51-10469
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*USAF 48th FBW, in Europe.
*10/1954: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-211".
*10/1/1957: Returned to the USAF.
*Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
51-10305/10764      Republic F-84G-16-RE Thunderjet
10469 to Belgium as FZ-211.  To Yugoslav AF

51-11016
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*Transferred to the Greek AF.
*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10712".
*Was/is a decoy at Split APT.
51-10975/11249      Republic F-84G-26-RE Thunderjet
11016 to Yugoslavian AF as JRV 10712
            

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51-11126
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*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10586".
*Struck off charge.
11126 to Yugoslavian AF as JRV 10586

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51-11138
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*Transferred to the Greek AF.
*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as “10570”.
Nema 
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52-2936
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*6/1953: Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10501".
*Preserved at Belgrade?
52-2893/3192   Republic F-84G-31-RE Thunderjet
2936 (c/n 3050-1855B) to Yugoslavian AF Jun 1953 as JRV 10501.
On static display as EX 10501 at entrance to Maribor Airport, Slovenia Jan 2010.

52-2939
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*7/1953: Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10525".
*Locally converted to recon aircraft as IF-84G.
*Currently on display in the MJV Museum in Belgrade, Serbia.
2939 (c/n 3050-1858B) to Yugoslavian AF Jul 1953 as JRV 10525. 
Locally converted to recon aircraft as IF-84G.  On display in Belgrade museum.

[TNT024]

Ja bih te podatke prihvatio sa dosta rezerve. To bi moglo da posluži da dalje "kopanje" i traženje istine. Ali sam ubeđen da to neko ima korektno obrađeno.
Kao što si i ti primetio 10570 se pojavljuje tri puta:

51-1138
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*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as "JRV 10570".
51-9736
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*4/1952: Transferred to the Belgian AF as "FZ-35".
*1st Squadron (2nd Wing), at Florennes AB as “3R-O”
*23rd Squadron (10th Wing), at Kleine Brogel AB.
*7/27/1956: Returned to the USAF. Or 1957?
*7/1956: Transferred to the Yugoslav AF.
51-1117/1226      Republic F-84G-15-RE Thunderjet
1138 (c/n 3235-1761) to Yugoslavian AF as JRV 10570.
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51-11138
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*Transferred to the Greek AF.
*Transferred to the Yugoslavian AF as “10570”.
Nema

 

[MOTORISTA]

Ovo treba uzeti sa velikom rezervom...stranica gospodina Joea Baughera je možda tačna što se tiče letelica USAF, ali ostalo...teško da će da ide.

[markobe]

Koliko se ovom može vjerovti?

Dobro pitanje, kolega Zulu Delta. Najvjerojatnije bi točan odgovor glasio "malo ili nimalo". Potpuno se slažem sa kolegama TNT-om i MOTORISTOM da ove podatke treba uzeti sa rezervom.

Ako se ne varam, podaci koje je našao i postavio kolega Zulu Delta su zapravo kombinacija podataka sa dva site-a :
ovog : http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/F-84G.html i puno poznatijeg Baugherovog : http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1951.html

...stranica gospodina Joea Baughera je možda tačna što se tiče letelica USAF...

Možda nije loše još jednom ponoviti ono što sam svojedobno napisao na forumu (doduše na engleskom jeziku) o Baugherovom siteu. On je točan kada je osnovna podjela aviona po dobivenim USAF reg. u pitanju, poput ove :
51-692/996      Republic F-84G-1-RE Thunderjet

No, kada se radi o povijesti određenog aviona u tome nizu, npr. 51-692 tu treba biti VRLO oprezan.

Tu se g. Baugher dosta oslanja na podatke koje dobija od drugih ljudi. A oni se kreću u širokom rasponu od izvanrednih podataka do podatka koji su blago rečeno čista nebuloza. Zato treba biti vrlo oprezan sa njima.

To vrijedi kako za Baugherov site (koji je vjerojatno najpoznatiji kada se govori o serialima), tako i za druge, manje siteove poput gore navedenog.

Situaciju sa F-84G još dodatno komplicira i činjenica da su otprilike u isto vrijeme kada i Juga i Grci i Turci dobivali Thunderjete preko MDAP-a. Tako da se često dešava da je avion za koji se tvrdi da je završio u jednoj zemlji, zapravo isporučen nekoj grugoj... Slična situacija je i sa ex-kanadskim i RAF F-86E koji su kasnije isporučivani Italiji i Jugoslaviji...
 
Na kraju, ostaje nada da će se na forumu kad-tad objaviti podaci o serialima JRV F-84G, kao što su se objavili podaci i o drugim Jet-ovima. Tada će i nama entuzijastima biti lakše naći prave podatke o ovim avionima.

[ZuluDelta]

TNTO24 moj novi prijatelj dobro je primjetio isti broj se javlja na više mjesta, slučajno sam naišao na tu stranicu koju je odmah pogodio moj poznanik Markobe, točno je to sve što ste rekli , Motorista da tebe vrijednog  ne zaboravim navesti, e sad me zanima što je s tim podacima o F-84G bilo bi lijepo da se iznesu na sunce.
Uvjeren sam da će naš Milan i Bojan učiniti nešto po tom pitanju, a Delgrad zasigurno u svojoj škrinjici ima materijala  

Malo sam čeprkao u svojoj arhivi i slikovnoj i vjerodostojno pisanoj i rezultat toga je brojka od 118 aviona od svih 169 koliko smo imali ako se ne varam,krenimo redom:

501,503,506,507/07,508,509/09buz,511/11,514,515,516,518/18,519/19,520,522,523,524,525/25mjv,530/30buzzbz,531,538,539,
540/40,541,542,544,545/45,546,547,548/48,549/49,550,551,553/53,554,555,556,559,561,562,563,565/65,567,569,570,571,
572,573,576,582,585,591,594,596/96buzzbz,601,602,608,610/10?,613/13,614/14,615/15,616,617/17,618,619,620/20buzbr.,
621,623/23,626/26?,628,629,631,633,634,635,638,642,643,644,655,646,656,659,660,661,665,666,669,673,674,675,676,677,
678,679,682,684zlzd,685,687,691,692,693,694,695,696,697,699,700,701,703,704,705,708,710,711,712,714,717,718,720,


Izvor- JETS-YUVAM-slike-brojevi iz bilježnice......118 aviona od 169

Pozdrav  ZD

[MOTORISTA]

Tabela za F-84 je u radu, ali imamo malo podataka.

[MOTORISTA]

Inače bi serijali za F-84G trebalo da idu ovako za svaku od podverzija:

51-692/996	Republic F-84G-1-RE
51-997/1066	Republic F-84G-5-RE
51-1067/1116	Republic F-84G-10-RE
51-1117/1226	Republic F-84G-15-RE
51-1227/1281	Republic F-84G-20-RE
51-1282/1343	Republic F-84G-25-RE
51-9548/9622	Republic F-84E-30-RE
51-9623/9707	Republic F-84G-2-RE
51-9708/9964	Republic F-84G-6-RE
51-9965/10304	Republic F-84G-11-RE
51-10305/10764	Republic F-84G-16-RE
51-10765/10974	Republic F-84G-21-RE
51-10975/11249	Republic F-84G-26-RE
51-16643/16751	Republic F-84G-26-RE
52-2893/3192	Republic F-84G-31-RE
52-3193/3242	Republic F-84G-25-RE
52-3243/3329	Republic F-84G-30-RE
52-8287/8486	Republic F-84G-31-RE

[ZuluDelta]

MOTORISTA samo da dodam broj aviona po serijama koje am našao na netu, mada su mi malo upitni kad gledamo po varijantama 


Serials of the F-84G:
51-692/996    Republic F-84G-1-RE Thunderjet  305
51-997/1066    Republic F-84G-5-RE Thunderjet  70
51-1067/1116    Republic F-84G-10-RE Thunderjet 50
51-1117/1226    Republic F-84G-15-RE Thunderjet 110
51-1227/1281    Republic F-84G-20-RE Thunderjet 55
51-1282/1343    Republic F-84G-25-RE Thunderjet 62
51-9548/9622    Republic F-84E-30-RE Thunderjet 75
51-9623/9707    Republic F-84G-2-RE Thunderjet  85
51-9708/9964    Republic F-84G-6-RE Thunderjet  257
51-9965/10304    Republic F-84G-11-RE Thunderjet 340
51-10305/10764    Republic F-84G-16-RE Thunderjet 460
51-10765/10974    Republic F-84G-21-RE Thunderjet 210
51-10975/11249    Republic F-84G-26-RE Thunderjet 275
51-16643/16751    Republic F-84G-26-RE Thunderjet 108......nema....ovo sam sam dodao
52-2893/3192    Republic F-84G-31-RE Thunderjet 300
52-3193/3242    Republic F-84G-25-RE Thunderjet 50
52-3243/3329    Republic F-84G-30-RE Thunderjet 87
52-8287/8486    Republic F-84G-31-RE Thunderjet 200

A total of 3,025 were accepted-789 for the USAF and 2,236 for the MDAP.

The Air Force accepted 447 F-84Gs in FY 52, 342 in FY 53. The Air Force also took delivery of the aircraft earmarked for the MDAP during the same period 710 in FY 52, 1,505 in FY 53, and 21 during the first month of FY 54.

[MOTORISTA]

Hvala Zulu, to sam zaboravio.