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« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2011, 09:27:43 pm »

Pitanje:  1957 godina aerodrom Zemunik

F-84G  ZBZ  gen. Radoje  Ljubičić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju
F84G   ZBZ  kap. Jože  Barić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju

Jesam li ja tu nesto geskom upisao ili cuo po obicaju? 

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« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2011, 10:00:46 pm »

Pitanje:  1957 godina aerodrom Zemunik

F-84G  ZBZ  gen. Radoje  Ljubičić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju
F84G   ZBZ  kap. Jože  Barić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju

Jesam li ja tu nesto geskom upisao ili cuo po obicaju? 

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Nešto tu debelo ne štima: gen.ppuk. Radoje Ljubičić poginuo je 03.02.1972. u katastrofi helikoptera HT-41 (Mi-2) kao putnik. Tada se nalazio na dužnosti Komandanta 5. VaK-a.

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« Reply #62 on: April 02, 2011, 10:33:40 pm »

Ljubičić je valjda poginuo u helikopteru Mi-2 12509 iz 782 šhe.
 
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« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2011, 09:32:46 pm »

Dali ima kakav udes s ovom dvojicom u okviru tog vremena, sto kazu dokumenti, molio bi nekoga koji je voljan pogledati  172 ili 83puk 21divizije.

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« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2011, 10:06:47 pm »

Pitanje:  1957 godina aerodrom Zemunik

F-84G  ZBZ  gen. Radoje  Ljubičić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju
F84G   ZBZ  kap. Jože  Barić poginuo sudar na uzlijetanju
Jesam li ja tu nesto geskom upisao ili cuo po obicaju? 

Nešto što bi ličilo na ovo dogodilo se 10.08.1956. u 172. puku 21. divizije.
Ovo se desilo prilikom poletanja u paru radi vežbe - fiktivnih napada na poligonu Peka(?), vođa na F-84G  br. 10607 bio je poručnik Marin Bareta a na F-84G broj 10603 pratilac puk. Radoje Ljubičić (komandant 21. vazd. divizije).
Usled veće brzine u poletanju pratilac (puk. Ljubičić) sustigao je i udario vođu u hor. stabilizator i tom prilikom od izduvnih gasova zapalio se krilni tank na avionu puk. Ljubičića! Oba aviona su u produžetku piste upali u kamenjar i zapalila se. Piloti su se spasli sa lakšim ozledama.



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« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2011, 10:23:02 pm »

Milane zahvaljujem  angel

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« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2011, 10:17:40 pm »

Imam dosta rekla-kazala vezano za udese/katastrofe, fokusiran sam na a. Zemunik , da ne budem naporan i prospem sve sto imam, pitanje za ove slucajeve:

58.  F-84G  172puk  pit  Ljuben  Dimitrovski  poginuo mala  visina iskakanja
58.  F84G  83puk  Franjo  Dvorski poginuo  Silba  u oluji pao u more

1959.  F-84G  172puk  Jevtović poginuo  sudar  nakon polijetanja
59.     F-84G  172puk  Dušan  Korać  poginuo  sudar nakon polijetanja
59.     F-84G  5vak    puk.  Milan  Tojagić  poginuo  otok Marlera  udario u more nakon nepravilnog položaja

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« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2011, 02:50:15 pm »

Is there a list available with all the JRV F-84G crashes, which includes serial number, name of pilot, location of crash and cause of crash?
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2011, 09:54:03 pm »

Is there a list available with all the JRV F-84G crashes, which includes serial number, name of pilot, location of crash and cause of crash?

Unfortunately we haven`t manage to do it...yet. On the other hand we have list for JRV airplanes T-33, F-86E/D and MiG-21.

https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?topic=14299.0

https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?topic=14376.0

https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?topic=13541.0

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« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2011, 11:41:11 am »

Hello

OK, thank you for your fast reply.

What I am looking for is
1. a complete list of JRV F-84G with the USAF serial number, fate of the aircraft, hours flown etc....
2. a complete list of JRV F-84G crashes, as I have asked above...
From what I understand from previous posts above, crashes have been taken from a sort of JRV book on accidents/crashes?

A bit off topic, but I have the following from the USAF archives (microfilm):
From serial block 52-2893/52-3329 (Republic F-84G Thunderjet) the following have been delivered to the JRV.

52-2893 / 52-3329 :
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2913, 2924, 2926, 2928, 2932, 2936, 2937, 2939, 2946, 2948, 2951, 2953, 2955, 2962, 2963, 2964, 2971, 2972, 2989, 2994, 2998, 2999, 3007, 3183
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All of the deliveries from 52-2893 / 52-3329 are labelled “project MDA00029” on the USAF individual aircraft record card. Furhter, both project  'MDAP-2' and 'MDAP-18' are mentioned, when using “project MDA00029”.
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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2011, 10:10:21 pm »

Here are some examples:

52-2936 was 10501 in JRV, 52-2939=10525 and 51-3181=10676 ( this one was purchased from Greek AF). Yugoslav AF got 169 F-84G through the MDAP, and bought another 60 from Greek AF.
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« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2011, 11:24:39 am »

Here are some examples:

52-2936 was 10501 in JRV, 52-2939=10525 and 51-3181=10676 ( this one was purchased from Greek AF). Yugoslav AF got 169 F-84G through the MDAP, and bought another 60 from Greek AF.

Hello,

Small correction to the above
51-3181 is not a USAF serial number (it was not -unknown- allocated)

10676 is preserved at Rijeka, and was credited in the past with former USAF 52-3181. However, that is not possible:
52-3181, which was d/d USAF 27.04.53 and d/d MDAP 03.09.53, arriving Turkey 10.10.53

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« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2011, 09:54:42 pm »

Here are some examples:

52-2936 was 10501 in JRV, 52-2939=10525 and 51-3181=10676 ( this one was purchased from Greek AF). Yugoslav AF got 169 F-84G through the MDAP, and bought another 60 from Greek AF.

Hello,

Small correction to the above
51-3181 is not a USAF serial number (it was not -unknown- allocated)

10676 is preserved at Rijeka, and was credited in the past with former USAF 52-3181. However, that is not possible:
52-3181, which was d/d USAF 27.04.53 and d/d MDAP 03.09.53, arriving Turkey 10.10.53

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Hmmm...that one I`ve found on Joe Baugher page about US aircraft serial numbers, and it is staded there that this aircraft vent to JRV as 10676.
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« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2011, 08:53:10 am »

Here are some examples:

52-2936 was 10501 in JRV, 52-2939=10525 and 51-3181=10676 ( this one was purchased from Greek AF). Yugoslav AF got 169 F-84G through the MDAP, and bought another 60 from Greek AF.

Hello,

Small correction to the above
51-3181 is not a USAF serial number (it was not -unknown- allocated)

10676 is preserved at Rijeka, and was credited in the past with former USAF 52-3181. However, that is not possible:
52-3181, which was d/d USAF 27.04.53 and d/d MDAP 03.09.53, arriving Turkey 10.10.53

Regards

Hmmm...that one I`ve found on Joe Baugher page about US aircraft serial numbers, and it is staded there that this aircraft vent to JRV as 10676.

Yes, sometimes information is not correct on the internet. Therefore, we have to doublecheck with th eofficial archives, whenever available.
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« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2011, 05:24:09 pm »

Imam dosta rekla-kazala vezano za udese/katastrofe, fokusiran sam na a. Zemunik , da ne budem naporan i prospem sve sto imam, pitanje za ove slucajeve:

58.  F-84G  172puk  pit  Ljuben  Dimitrovski  poginuo mala  visina iskakanja
58.  F84G  83puk  Franjo  Dvorski poginuo  Silba  u oluji pao u more

1959.  F-84G  172puk  Jevtović poginuo  sudar  nakon polijetanja
59.     F-84G  172puk  Dušan  Korać  poginuo  sudar nakon polijetanja
59.     F-84G  5vak    puk.  Milan  Tojagić  poginuo  otok Marlera  udario u more nakon nepravilnog položaja

Zahvaljujem unaprijed  ZD
Izasla je monografija 172lbap pa samim tim i period baziranja u Zadru.Izmedju ostalog opisana su sva iskakanja i katastrofe u puku i kroz tekst a i u prilogu.Na zalost jedino nema evidencijskih brojeva,ali mislim da cemo uspeti da uparimo dogadjaje i letelice
Od svih udesa-katastrofa prilicno je upecatljiva jedna katastrofa u kojoj je avion F84 usled hipoksije pilota pao cak na granici Austrije i Svajcarske!
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