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« on: April 30, 2011, 09:10:54 am »

29.04.2011.
DefenseNews.com

Rusija je 29. aprila potvrdila da je Indija odbila ponudu Rusije da snabde svog traddicionalnnog saveznika sa 126 višenamenskih borbenih aviona u poslu vrednom 12 milijardi dolara.

Američki amnasador u Nju Delhiju je dan ranije izjavio da je duboko razočaran odlukom Indije da odbije Lokid Martinov F-16 i Boingov F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Indija nije zvanično objavila, ali Rusi i Amerikanci veruju da je u poslu još uvek Rafal i Eurofajterov Tajfun.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 10:51:25 am »

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Rejected MMRCA vendors fight to return
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi May 14, 2011, 0:25 IST

Backed by their govts, those eliminated in reckoning for Rs 43,000-crore fighter aircraft deal press for reasons why.

The elimination of four aircraft vendors from the $9.5-billion global competition to sell 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) to the Indian Air Force (IAF) has not been accepted quietly. Business Standard has learnt the ministry of defence (MoD) has already got letters from all four, inquiring why their fighters were found unfit.

The first inquiry was from Russia, asking why the IAF had found the MiG-35 unsuitable. Next was the US embassy here, asking the specific reasons that had led to the elimination of the two American fighters, the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet; and the Lockheed Martin F-16IN Super Viper. MoD sources also confirm that Sweden’s Gripen International has written in, seeking details of why the fancied Gripen NG fighter was ruled out.

Earlier, on April 27, the MoD had written to the four vendors, briefly outlining but not detailing the reasons for their elimination. The remaining two vendors —Eurofighter GmbH and Dassault of France — were asked to extend the validity of their price bids, given two years earlier.

Vendor protests after elimination from a tender would usually be rejected as a pro forma exercise. This time, however, an MoD procedural error could provide the vendors a lever to claw their way back into contention. The MoD’s Technical Oversight Committee (TOC), which must review the IAF’s technical evaluation and flight trials to ascertain that procurement procedures were followed in full, had not completed its work before the MoD sent out the rejection letters.

It remains unclear why the MoD sent out its rejection letters before the TOC had ensured full compliance with procedures. Now, the three-man TOC — headed by the Scientific Advisor to the Raksha Mantri (SA to RM), V K Saraswat, with Bharat Electronics Ltd chief, Ashwini Datt and the IAF’s Air Marshal Anil Chopra as members — is scrambling to complete this mandatory review. Emailed a questionnaire by Business Standard, the MoD has not responded.

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Aviation experts apprehend that this procedural lacuna could be exploited by one of the “politically influential vendors” (read Boeing and Lockheed Martin) to re-enter contention. Senior IAF officers, however, emphatically rule out selecting either American fighter. Says an IAF officer involved in the selection: “The US companies, which flaunt their technological leadership, are feigning hurt that their fighters were found technologically unsuitable. But it was their misjudgement to offer the IAF fighters like the F-16 and the F-18 that are decades old. It is arrogance to claim these have been modernised and are good enough for a country like India. If they wanted to argue technology, they should have fielded the F-35.”

The Russian vendor, RAC MiG, is also upset with the IAF’s rejection but for another reason. “The MiG-35 has been developed in Russia as a natural replacement for the 2000-odd MiG-21s that are in coming to the end of their service lives in tens of air forces around the world. With the IAF — a bastion of MiG fighters — rejecting the MiG-35, the Russian builder worries about the negative signal this will send across the world,” points out Pushpindar Singh, aerospace expert and editor-in-chief of the trade magazine, Vayu.

Meanwhile, Gripen International is fine-tuning its strategy for appealing the IAF’s rejection. According to the MoD’s letter to the company, the Gripen NG was found non-compliant with the IAF’s tender requirements on 51 counts, of which 43 relate to the critical Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. Gripen International argues it is unfair to say the IAF has not been provided “proof of technology”, or proof that the Gripen NG’s Selex AESA radar (still under development) had surmounted the key technological obstacles needed for operationalising it in time for delivery to India. That is because Selex (in partnership with Euroradar) is also developing the Eurofighter’s AESA radar, which the IAF has accepted as technologically viable, and likely to be ready in time for delivery to India. Gripen points out that if Selex has convinced the IAF about having mastered the technology for the Eurofighter’s AESA radar, that same technology will drive the Gripen NG’s radar.

But IAF sources reveal that Gripen failed to provide proof that their AESA radar development was on track and that they could integrate it on a fighter. In contrast, Dassault had fitted two prototype AESA radars on Rafale fighters, proving they were close to completion. Eurofighter, too, test-flew a prototype AESA radar for the IAF evaluation team, convincing them it would be ready by 2014-15.

So far, all six vendors had conspicuously praised the MMRCA technical and flight evaluation procedures, declaring this was the most professionally handled competitive procurement they had ever encountered anywhere. Now, clearly, the gloves are off.

Izvor: http://www.business-standard.com/

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 01:02:21 pm »

U ovom tekstu se navodi da proizvođači nisu dobili podatke o tome zašto su njihovi proizvodi eliminisani, dok je indijska, pa i ruska štampa u prvim danima nakon objavljivanja vesti o eliminaciji pisala o tome da su dobili detaljne informacije o razlozima eliminacije, barem sam video to na ruskim sajtovima koji su tvrdili da je MiG dobio listu od 14 tačaka u kojima MiG-35 nije zadovoljio indijske zahteve.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 01:38:14 pm »

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Ono sto je meni zanimljivo da ni Tajfun, Rafal i Gripen neamju do kraja razvijen AESA radar, a jedine dve zemlje Rusija i Amerika koje imaju AESA radare sa dokazanom funkcionalnoscu su izbacene iz trke.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 03:08:23 pm »

Ruski AESA radari su u istoj fazi razvoja kao i evropski, tj. postoje funkcionalni demonstratori, ali ništa više od toga.
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