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Од свих ратника најјача су два: време и стрпљење.


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Од свих ратника најјача су два: време и стрпљење.


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Од свих ратника најјача су два: време и стрпљење.


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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 11:22:33 am »

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 10:06:10 am »

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 04:53:11 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 03:02:04 pm »

Testiranje oklopa zarobljenog Tigar tenka protiv 85mm topa sa T-34/85.

Slika gore, 800 metara u bocni oklop
Slika dole, 1450 metara u bocni oklop kupole
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Slika gore, 1450 metara u bocni oklop
Slika dole, 1000 metara u doljnji prednji oklop
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Slika gore, udubljenje 30mm i kvrga sa unutrasnje strane gornjeg prednjeg oklopa pri pogodku sa 1500 metara.
Slika dole, drugi pogodak u isti deo oklopa lomi plocu sa daljine od 1500 metara.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2020, 03:11:56 pm »

Da li rezultati testiranja municije i oklopa mogu biti relevantni, kada se u istu ploču ispali nekoliko projektila, jedan do drugog?

Mislim (čisto laički) da je prvi projektil velike energije dovoljno promenio strukturu oklopa, a samim tim i otpornost na probojnost, da svaki sledeći projektil u istu ploču ne kazuje pravu informacinu.

Šta kažu stručnjaci?
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 03:59:22 pm »

Pa ovaj test upravo govori o tome. Znaci sa daljine1500 metara prednja gornja ploca je izdrzala prvi pogodak. Drugi pogodak je razbio plocu upravo zato sto je prvi pogodak osim udubljenja napravio snaznu vibraciju koja je najverovatnije napravila pukotine u samom oklopu i oslabila var na sastavima. Nemacki oklop je pravljen da bude tvdji nego ruski ili americki. A to je zato sto je celik bio losijeg kvaliteta pa su ga morali kaliti da nadoknade nedostatak. Inace oklopne ploce su kaljene da budu tvrdje na povrsini od 5 do 10 mm pa unutrasnji deo je meksi da bude elasticniji. Nedostatak materijala za pravljenje celika u nemackoj je dovelo do toga da isti tenkovi imaju razlicitu kvaliteta oklopa. Kad Mirko i Slavko dignu voz u Jugi, nestize boksit, cink, bakar i nikl u nemacku i rezultat je krhk oklop.

Edit: da dodam, na poslednjoj slici se jasno vidi koliko je los var izmedju prednje i gornje ploce. Odnosno koliko je plitak var. U to vreme 1942 Rusi su varili "wet welding" izvinjavam se ali neznam na nasem. To je varenje po dubini, a radi se tako sto se naspe materijal (slicno pesku) u spoj pa kad se vari, var se stvara u dubini jer pesak neda gore. Nadam se da ovo ima smisla. U poslednjih par godina se borim da ne zaboravim Srpski tako da se izvinjavam na greskama. Jednostavno vise se nemogu setiti nekih reci.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2020, 04:23:04 pm »

Top ML-20 152mm efekat na nemacki oklop.

Slika gore, pogodak u prednju plocu Pantera sa razdaljine od 1200 metara. Projektil se odbio i napravio rikoset. Kineticka energija odvalila rupu na oklopu 36cm sa 47cm.

Slika dole, daljina 1200 metara pogodak u kupolu.
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Kupola Tigar 2 tenka posle pogodka 152mm projektila
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2020, 10:08:43 am »

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Zanimljiva slika unistenog Pantera. Po opisu, posada je poginula od komada metala koji se odkinuo od unutrasnjeg dela oklopa kupole. Pogodjen je tri puta bez uspesnog proboja sa 75mm topom iz Shermana Engleske vojske.


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