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« on: October 10, 2011, 07:46:53 pm »

Haubica 38cm M.16 je kompromisno rješenje između haubice 42cm i poznatog merzera 30.5cm,dizajnirana da ima vatrenu moć prvog i mobilnost drugog oruđa.
Projekt je svoj razvoj počeo u Škodi, aprila 1915g. Prvi testni hici su ispaljeni januara  1916g. Maja su se dvije haubice već nalazile na italijanskom frontu. Baterije su nazvane Gudrun i Barbara (Barbara je dejstvovala zajedno sa topom 35cm, zajedno su i dopremljeni). Korišteni su u prolječnoj ofanzivi na Soškoj fronti. Kako su tamo pokazali odlične rezultate, naručeno je još dodatnih 14 oruđa.
Korišteni su na svim frontovima i na kraju rata A-U je imala u službi 10 oruđa.
M.16 je težio 81.7T, pripremljen za dejstvo. Potrebno je bilo od 6-8 sati za sastavljanje haubice i montažu na položaju. Tu se računa i iskop potreban za postavljanje.
Transportirana je u četiri dijela, cijev, lafet i 2x postolje. Transport je bio moguć željeznicom kao i cestovnim prjevozom na specijalnim prikolicama. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Kalibar 380 mm
Dužina cijevi 6460mm
Početna brzina 459m/sec
Barutno punjenje do 68kg
Najveći domet 15.000m
Težina projektila 740 kg
Elevacija od 40 do 75stepeni.
Horizontalno 360 stepeni
Brzina paljbe 1granata svakih 5 minuta.


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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 07:53:13 pm »

Punila se kod elevacije 11 stepeni, zatvarač je bio horizontalni klinasti.Za dotur municije je imala specijalna kolica i dizalicu. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]


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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 08:00:56 pm »

Ratne slike. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]


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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 08:04:03 pm »

Skica transporta haubice železnicom
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Barbara
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Malo skretanje sa teme.
Zanimljivo, da je škoda pravila par haubica tipa M.16: 24 cm M16, 30,5 cm M16, pomenuta 38 cm M16 a i 21 cm merzer M16..


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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 08:38:31 pm »

Generatorzugwagen M.16/B-Zug

Šta je vuklo ove prikolice? Potrebno je bilo razviti novo vučno vozilo. Novo vozilo –tegljač –traktor je razvio dr. Ferdinand Porche u tvrtki »Daimler Osterreicher«. On je razvio inovativan tegljač, koji je imao benzinski-električni generator. Motor je bio 6 cilindrični (20,32l) i proizvodio je električnu energiju koja je pogonila dva elektromotora na stražnjim kotačima. Postojao je i prjedlog da se ugrade elktromotori na stražnje osovine svih 4 prikolica.
Projekat je dobio ime B-Zug, i mogao je vući dvije prikolice brzinom 12km/h. Brzina sa jednom prikolicom je bila 14km/h. Savladavao je uspon od 26 stupnjeva, a sad vije prikolice 23 stupnja.
Filter goriva se mijenjao svaka 2-3 sata, a podmazivanje osovina se vršilo svaki sat.
Upotrebljavao se i u drugom svjetskom ratu, kad asu oduzeti od češke vojske i koristio ih je njemački Wehrmacht.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 08:01:27 pm »

Barbara u transportu, Trento 1916. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]


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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 08:34:11 pm »

Зна ли се колики је био век цеви, односно колико је могла да испали граната?
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 09:15:06 pm »

Nisam nasao taj, vrlo zanimljivi, podatak; medjutim na deset narucenih haubica isle su dvije rezervne cijevi, tako da je za ocekivati malo habanje cijevi. Odgovor ce se pronaci.
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Znamo da su sacuvane samo dvije haubice, br 2. u Bukurestu i br. 6 u Becu.

Evo nekoliko fotografija iz muzeja u Bukurestu (radi se o haubici Gudrun; cini mi se da je vec pokazana na nekom od topika na Palubi)

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 09:17:24 pm »

Jedna od ostecenih zarobljenih haubica od strane americke vojske 1918.g.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 09:36:38 pm »

Зна ли се колики је био век цеви, односно колико је могла да испали граната?

Teški topovi imali su vek cevi od 100 do 300 granata sa punim borbenim punjenjem. Haubice su imale manji pritisak gasova u cevi, pa se može očekivati i nešto duži vek cevi. Škodina artiljerija bila je izuzetnog kvaliteta, pa je verovatno vek trajanja cevi bliže onoj gornjoj granici. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 05:17:56 am »

Negdje sam pročitao podatak da je ispucano 430 granata, mislim da iz Barbare, bez zamijene cijevi.Izvor je italijanski, moram ga pronaći.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2014, 09:20:20 am »

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2014, 10:02:50 am »

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2014, 10:36:21 am »

Jos nekoliko fotografija; neke se ponavljaju
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 08:41:32 pm »

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