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« Reply #195 on: August 17, 2017, 03:02:42 am »

I am currently researching the C-47 that my husband's grandfather flew for the USAAF in 1945. His story was that he lost an engine and was forced to land the aircraft in a river valley in Yugoslavia. I am trying to find the original serial number for the plane and found this thread on this forum. I am wondering if his plane may have become JRV 7301 as it would not have been retrievable by the USAAF. Any information would be appreciated. I will attach a photo of my husband's grandfather with his downed plane and the Partisans that helped them. Thank you!


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« Reply #196 on: August 17, 2017, 07:06:24 am »

Hello and welcome knmyers.

As of your question about grand dad Dakota this is info that we have: 7301 - C-47A-20-DL - c/n 9327 - Ex-USAAF 42-23465

On Joe Baugher page I`ve found this:

23465 (MSN 9327) Delivered to USAAF 2Apr43; Oran, Algeria 15May43; 12th Air Force; 12th Troop Carrier Squadron, 60th Troop Carrier Group, Brindisi, Italy; damaged taxying at Brindisi 16Sep44; condemned 27Apr45; Yugoslav Air Force / Jugoslovensko Ratno Vazduhoplovstvo (JRV) Aug 45 as 7301; crashed near Ljubovija; repaired

It would be helpful if someone remembers the date of crash, and if you have more photos, especially of tail, of the plane.
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« Reply #197 on: August 19, 2017, 03:05:13 pm »

Thank you for your reply, Motorista.

I have a cropped image of the tail section of the plane that my husband has enhanced in an effort to make out the tail number. We are fairly certain the first two digits are 2-2, and the third digit appears to be a 3. We can not decipher any more of the numbers after that. Since the first 4 was always left off USAAF tails, this plane's number appears to be 42-23###, which matches the information we have from Joe Baugher's site. My husband recalls his grandfather saying the belly landing happened in 1945, which also matches the record for 42-23465/7301. We do not know the month but think the condition of the cornfield in the picture could be a clue.


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« Reply #198 on: August 19, 2017, 03:11:05 pm »

I forgot to mention that we know that my husband's grandfather was a member of the 12th Troop Carrier Squadron. This also matches the description for 42-23465. We have original USAAF paperwork that shows he was in the 12th TCS in April of 1945. The squadron emblem behind the pilot's window in the photo also confirms it.
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« Reply #199 on: August 19, 2017, 10:26:26 pm »

Based on propeller damage, it seems that left engine was feathered, and right was still spinning when landing - like your husband's grandfather told. Although it is strange that he landed on belly, C-47 could land on difficult terrain - maybe the field was short?

Based on details on photo, it seems that this happened after the war?
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« Reply #200 on: August 19, 2017, 11:06:20 pm »

Vathra-

Yes, the left engine was lost. He was getting the crew ready to bail out. He considered landing in a river but then a cornfield appeared through the cloud cover and he thought it the better option.

We do not know if the photo is from after the war or not. We only know that it was taken in 1945. If the incident did not take place after the war had ended, it was really close to the end. He was stationed in Pomigliano, Italy at the time and flying supplies to the partisans in Yugoslavia.

We also do not know why he chose to belly land the plane. We just assumed it was due to uneven terrain.

You mentioned that details from the photo make it appear that it was after the war. Can you tell me what photo details lead you to think this?

Thank you!

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« Reply #201 on: August 19, 2017, 11:23:49 pm »

You mentioned that details from the photo make it appear that it was after the war. Can you tell me what photo details lead you to think this?
Two things:
you wrote it was 1945, It doesn't look like spring, land is hard and not muddy, corns are cut.
Also partisan uniforms look very tidy, which would be unusual for war.

That is a feeling of course, I wouldn't bet a money on it.
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« Reply #202 on: August 19, 2017, 11:40:20 pm »

Interesting points about the ground, uniform, and corn. His squadron (12th Troop Carrier Squadron) was moved to Trinidad in early June of 1945, so I think it had to be before that. My best guess is April of 1945 based on a description of an aircraft with serial number 42-23465 on Joseph Baugher's USAAF serial number website that appears to have been lost in similar circumstances and around the same time as what my husband's grandfather had described when he was alive. That plane became Yugoslav Air Force's 7301. Would love to find more information on 7301 to try to confirm a match, but doubt the information is out there.
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« Reply #203 on: August 20, 2017, 09:34:14 am »

cn 9327 JRV 7301/7310 C-47A-5-DL Yugoslav Air Force mfd 02apr43 USAAF s/n 42-23465; condemned 27apr45; d/d 1945; w/o when crashed near Ljubovija (western Serbia/now bordering with Bosnia),
This Dakota was repaired and  imposed to YU AF at april 25th 1945.
Later became YU AF 7301 and in sept. 1953. was re-numbered and became 7310.
Served till 1966. and withdrawn from service, scrapped.
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« Reply #204 on: September 18, 2017, 09:52:42 pm »

255 u Otočcu, malo dotjeran...


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« Reply #205 on: September 19, 2017, 05:10:13 pm »

Dakota u muzeju u Krakowu


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« Reply #206 on: September 19, 2017, 07:31:27 pm »

Dakota u muzeju u Krakowu

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