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Author Topic: Raketne topovnjače klase "Kralj" HRM  (Read 168516 times)
 
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« Reply #225 on: April 24, 2016, 07:46:53 pm »

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« Reply #226 on: May 08, 2016, 10:02:32 pm »

Nekoliko prekrasnih slika "Kraljeva", snimljenih na vježbi BARAKUDA 16 koja se odvila 29.04.2016.

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Foto: Tomislav BRANDT, Hrvatski vojnik


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« Reply #227 on: May 12, 2016, 05:10:23 pm »

RTOP 11 Kralj Petar Krešimir IV.

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Pramčani top Bofors SAK 57 L/70

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RTOP 12 Kralj Dmitar Zvonimir

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« Reply #228 on: May 12, 2016, 05:12:37 pm »



Drago mi je videti da plove.
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« Reply #229 on: May 12, 2016, 05:16:27 pm »

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« Reply #230 on: May 13, 2016, 08:23:48 am »

Lepi brodovi. Steta sto su opremljeni motorima malog resursa. U tom pogledu Klasa 401 je daleko bolja i ekonomicnija.
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« Reply #231 on: May 13, 2016, 09:39:23 am »



Kupila bi JRM MTU motore da je imala para. Mislim da je odluka da se ipak ugrade M-504 motori bila iznuđena u vreme kad je program već kasnio,a političko stanje u zemlji bivalo sve gore iz dana u dan. S druge strane, remontni zavodi su imali i tehničke i stručne kapacitete da održavaju te složene, snažne motore jasnih i poznatih nedostataka. A što Hrvatska nije remotorizovala ta dva broda? I to je jasno zašto!
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« Reply #232 on: May 13, 2016, 12:16:06 pm »

To je tacno kumbore. Za HRM je mnogo nepovoljnija situacija sa tim motorima nego sto je bila za JRM.

Hrvatskoj je bilo potrebno da su ovi brodovi aktivniji i cesce na moru jer je flota mala a zona odgovornosi velika.

Imaju u CG vecu kolicinu MTU motora koji samo supljaju prasinu a i ostalih rezervinih delova.

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« Reply #233 on: May 13, 2016, 08:02:52 pm »

Lepi brodovi. Steta sto su opremljeni motorima malog resursa. U tom pogledu Klasa 401 je daleko bolja i ekonomicnija.

Nisam ni malo stručnjak na tom području. Tu se radi o onim ruskim motorima - zvezda motorima? Zašto ti motori imaju male resurse?
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« Reply #234 on: May 13, 2016, 08:59:07 pm »

Zato sto su puni snage u malom pakovanju (ili barem tako kazu Wink ). Grin
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« Reply #235 on: May 13, 2016, 09:33:08 pm »

Savršeni motori za raketne topovnjače u malom razvedenom akvatoriju, MTU su beštije za oceane.  Smiley

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« Reply #236 on: May 13, 2016, 10:08:22 pm »

Zato sto su puni snage u malom pakovanju (ili barem tako kazu Wink ). Grin

Motori Zvezda M-503 (42ČSPN16/17) i M-504 (56ČSPN 16/17) imaju veliku specifičnu snagu uz malu masu. Motori proizvedeni pre 1991. imali su resurs ispod 1.000 časova do revizije. 2000ih je proizvođač poboljšanjem materijala i tehnologije podigao resurs do 3-4000 časova do revizije, što je veliko dostignuće. Ipak, resurs im je i dalje znatno ispod MTU motora. MTU ima veliki asortiman motora, uglavnom vrlo brzohodnih. Motori modelnog reda 2000 i 4000 imaju oko 1800-2300 o/min, a reda 1163 1200-1300 o/min. Najveći motori reda 8000 - za korvete i fregate, imaju oko 1100 o/min.
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« Reply #237 on: May 20, 2016, 09:46:32 pm »

m503/504 imaju tragično male/uske temeljne ležaje, i po mojoj ocjeni to je najveći nedostatak (vidio sam motore rastavljene)
zato su i imali ugrađen indikator/spaljivač strugotine

kraljevi su morali imat bočno mtu 20V538 i centralno plinsku turbinu, kao VPBR, za zadanu snagu ibrzinu na kraju krajeva... opet težina nebi bila mala kao kod zvezda ali sati između remonta i mogućnost korištenja malih okretaja

nabava motora za dmitra zvonimira je bila afera koliko mi je poznato, a i predviđen je za mtu motore zato je i duži pola metra
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« Reply #238 on: November 29, 2016, 01:44:54 pm »


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« Reply #239 on: November 29, 2016, 01:47:21 pm »


 S probne vožnje.

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