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« on: September 16, 2008, 12:29:09 am »

Kim Dzong-Il obisao raketni camac severnokorejske RM

Kim Dzong-Il je 15. Avgusta obisao RC Br.155, koji "ponosno" nosi naziv 7. Puk vodjen od O-Jung-Hup-a (ko god da je doticni baja).
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 07:41:20 am »

OSA ?
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 08:02:14 am »

Po vestima iz Amerike i Južne Koreje, izgleda da je Kim Džong Il imao srčani udar, ali da se oporavlja.
Sumnja je pala kad se nije pojavio na nekoj paradi.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 09:19:11 am »

OSA ?

A koji bi drugi?  Cheesy
Doduse, moze biti i "Komar"...  Smiley
Taj brod, kako "vest" kaze, je obisao i cale mu, daleke 1970.

Pyongyang, August 2 (KCNA) -- General Secretary Kim Jong Il inspected a sub-unit of KPA Navy Unit 155 honored with the title of O Jung Hup-led Seventh Regiment. After receiving a salute, he went round the warship associated with revolutionary activities of President Kim Il Sung. The President personally went aboard the historic warship on May 24, 1970 and gave precious instructions on bolstering up the naval forces. Recalling with deep emotion the unforgettable historical day, Kim Jong Il praised the unit for preserving and managing well the warship associated with the leadership exploits of the President. He added that the undying revolutionary exploits performed by the President in the building of the Juche-oriented navy would shine long in the history of the country. He dropped in at the operation commanding room to learn about the unit's performance of guard duty and the training there. Expressing satisfaction over the fact that seamen of the unit are performing combat duty with high vigilance, sharply watching every move of the enemies, and all the commanding officers have acquired a high skill of operating the warship and commanding ability, he set forth the tasks to be fulfilled by the unit to boost the combat capability in every way. Making the rounds of entertainment and educational and supply service facilities of the unit, he took deep care of the living of the seamen. He was satisfied to learn that the commanding officers of the unit have provided the seamen with good and convenient conditions for their living and highly appreciated the efforts made by them. He met and had a warm talk with Choe Jong Su, captain of a boat of the sub-unit. He had a photo session with the servicepersons of the sub-unit. He was accompanied by KPA Generals Hyon Chol Hae and Ri Myong Su.

Ipak je "Komar" u pitanju, obratite paznju na fotografiju prikazanu u u drugom minutu videa, u pozadini se jasno vidi mitraljez 14.5 mm...
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 10:12:15 am »

Poslanik vladajuće južnokorejske partije optužuje Pjongjang
Severna Koreja kupuje oružje umesto hrane
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Autor: D. S. I.

Pjongjang - Severna Koreja je u proteklih pet godina kupila oružje u vrednosti od 65 miliona dolara uprkos nestašicama hrane u zemlji, saopštio je juče južnokorejski poslanik.


Kvon Jung Se kaže da je Pjongjang potrošio gotovo 13 miliona dolara za godinu dana tokom prethodne administracije Južne Koreje. Kvon je istupio protiv takozvane južnokorejske politike „sunčevog sjaja“ prema Severnoj Koreji. Prethodne administracije slale su pomoću hrani Severnoj Koreji, državi za koju kritičari kažu da bi je trebalo pažljivije posmatrati.

Kvon, inače član vladajuće južnokorejske Velike Nacionalne partije, izjavio je da je informacije dobio iz obaveštajnih izvora, iako one još nisu zvanično potvrđene. Prema njegovim rečima oružje je uglavnom dolazilo iz Kine, Rusije, Nemačke, Slovačke i drugih zemalja. „Izveštaj pokazuje da je Severna Koreja razvijala svoje vojne kapacitete uprkos nestašicama hrane u zemlji“, izjavio je Kvon. On je dodao da bi trebalo biti obazriv prilikom obezbeđivanja pomoći ovoj povučenoj, osiromašenoj, komunističkoj državi.

Kritičari davanja pomoći slažu se da je hrana upućena Pjongjangu iskorišćena za hranjenje članova vojne elite zemlje. Severna Koreja jedna je od najvećih armija u svetu, a veruje se da se gotovo četvrtina njenih nacionalnih prihoda potroši na vojsku. Više od 1,7 miliona ljudi od ukupno 23 miliona građana ove zemlje nalazi se u sastavu oružanih snaga. Nasuprot tome, južnokorejska vojska ima 680.000 vojnika.

S druge strane, mnogi Južnokorejci su na ivici gladi. U julu ove godine Svetski program za hranu UN upozorio je da je glad u Severnoj Koreji na najgoroj lestvici od 1990-ih godina i da je za gotovo šest miliona ljudi neophodna hitna pomoću hrani. Po dolasku na mesto šefa države južnokorejski predsednik Li Mjung Bak obećao je da će zaustaviti bezuslovnu pomoć Severnoj Koreji, koja je na to odgovorila prekidom svih kontakata.

"DANAS" 07/10/08
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 07:52:38 pm »

Juzni Korejci, kako je pogresno navedeno u tekstu su daleko od gladi, stavise, cak su i odrzavali proteste protiv uvoza americke govedine; Severni Korejci su vec drugi put opasno ugrozeni, i vec je zabelezeno nekoliko epicentara gde su zabelezeni slucajevi smrti od gladi, kao i dosta slucajeva od bolesti, koje su inace benigne, a za Severnjake smrtonosne zbog pada imuniteta. Sto se kupovine NVO tice, to su smesne stvari. Iz Slovacke su, kako sam procitao, kupili polovne radare za topove S-60 (lampase?) kao i delove za MiG-21; iz Kine su uvezli odredjeni broj IC dvogleda, iz Nemacke prislusne uredjaje, a iz Rusije su uvezli jednu fregatu klase Krivak bez naoruzanja i senzora, koja se jos uvek nalazi u bazi njihove RM u luci Nampo, kao i jedan tenk T-90, koji je Kim Dzong Il dobio na poklon od fabrike Transmash, koju je obisao 2001. tokom svog truckanja vozom po Rusiji. Kad smo vec kod Korejske Narodne Armije (zvanicni naziv severnokorejske vojske), glad se sve vise oseca i u njoj; naime, sve vise izvestaja koji pristizu odatle govore o masovnom dezertiranju i sve ucestalijoj kradji hrane od strane vojnika. Tako na primer, pripadnici 1. jedinice (brigade?) 46. pes.divizije vec jedu kasu od trave, sto je vec ozibljan pokazatelj gladi, a zbog veoma loseg stanja regruta, uvedeni su i "rekuperacioni bataljoni", gde se neuhranjeni regruti drze oko 2 meseca, gde se hrane malo bolje, kako bi se doveli u kakav-takav red. Uzas jedan...   
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 11:17:46 am »

Evo i svezih vesti iz Severne Koreje, zbog gladi izgleda da se u velikom broju jedinica ogranicava obuka koja ukljucuje teske fizicke napore.
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Because of Weak Soldiers, Limit Hard Physical Training
Infantry squads of 91 Military Training Camp based in Taesung-ri, Kangsuh County, South Pyongan Province, decided to decrease the intensity of the winter intensified drill that will begin from December 1 of this year due to malnourished soldiers. Although this military unit has provided soldiers with wheat for three meals a day, the amount of them was less than 300g. Because the meals do not include any side dishes and their amount cannot satisfy even children’s hunger, the increase in the number of malnourished soldiers is natural. A certain company of this camp has as many as 70 malnourished soldiers out of 100. Thus, they will be discharging soldiers who are suffering from critical malnutrition and cannot continue their duties, by the end of October. Ministry of the People’s Armed Forces ordered the unit to discharge the soldiers in secret in order not to spread any rumors.

On the other hand, when a staff of the military unit stated that there was a lecture for commanders of battalions of Pyongyang and 91 Military Training Camp and commanders of Support bureau last September 14, he also said, “As the food shortage has worsened, soldiers are getting weak. Although I want to put my men to work, I cannot do so because they are so weak. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to participate in and endure a winter intensified drill that will begin from December 1.” According to his statement, they decided to avoid any hard drills as much as they could and to practice basic tactics during this winter-intensified drill.

A Measure, “Provide Bean-curd Refuse During This Year’s Winter Drill”
During the winter military drill that will begin on December 1 of this year, the military has decided to provide soldiers with bean curd refuse for meals. On the designated days, each unit must give soldiers beans that they have conserved after harvesting and threshing for making tofu. However, some military units in Pyongyang have already consumed the reserved beans obtained from their extra farming because of the food shortage. For example, one unit boiled all their beans and even the pods together for the soldiers’ meals, so they do not have any beans in reserves. Because they ordered each platoon to prepare the beans as soon as they could, some officers are worried that they will have to resort to stealing beans from random farms to restore their reserves.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 02:55:52 pm »

Evo i svezih vesti iz Severne Koreje, zbog gladi izgleda da se u velikom broju jedinica ogranicava obuka koja ukljucuje teske fizicke napore.

Lično mislim da je ovo znatno preuveličano. Drugar mi se vratio iz posete Severnoj Koreji. Uglavnom je špartao po severnom delu zemlje i obišao je Jukte-Dong (po njegovim rečima jedna od najvećih luka u Severnoj Koreji), Horijong i Hamhang. Kaže da je istina da je težak život, ali daleko od toga da narod umire po ulicama od gladi. Njemu sve tamo liči dosta na '93.-'94. kod nas.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2008, 05:57:26 pm »

Kako je isao i sta je radio tamo? U Hamhung sam ja trebao da idem, kao i u Congdzin, ali izgleda od toga nista. U urbanim sredinama glad je "amortizovana" svercom iz Kine, ali u ruralnim delovima zemlje situacija je dosta strasna, mada ne kao devedesetih. Sto se poredjenja sa nama tice, nije na mestu, jer mi smo ipak imali neku materijalnu osnovu da prezivimo '93., nesto sto oni nemaju...
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2008, 09:11:00 pm »

Kako je isao i sta je radio tamo? U Hamhung sam ja trebao da idem, kao i u Congdzin, ali izgleda od toga nista. U urbanim sredinama glad je "amortizovana" svercom iz Kine, ali u ruralnim delovima zemlje situacija je dosta strasna, mada ne kao devedesetih. Sto se poredjenja sa nama tice, nije na mestu, jer mi smo ipak imali neku materijalnu osnovu da prezivimo '93., nesto sto oni nemaju...

Tamo je išao vozom iz Kine. A radio nije ništa Grin Dobio je mesec dana nagradnog odmora od japanske firme za koju radi u Pekingu, pa je rešio da ode do Severne Koreje Cool

Ja prenosim njegove reči što se tiče situacije. Mada istina je da je on bio samo u gradovima.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 01:56:41 pm »

Severnoj Koreji preti opasnost od gladi
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Seul - Organizacija UN za humanitarnu pomoć u hrani upozorila je da milionima građana Severne Koreje preti opasnost od gladi, ali su zvaničnici iz Južne Koreje saopštili da Seul još uvek nije odlučio da li da odgovori na zahtev komunističke zemlje za pomoć u hrani.

Gotovo 2,7 miliona ljudi na zapadnoj obali Severne Koreje ostaće ovog meseca bez hrane, navodi se u nedavno objavljenom izveštaju Svetskog programa za hranu (WFP).
Severna Koreja se oslanjala na humanitarnu pomoć da bi prehranila 23 miliona svojih građana, pošto su prirodne katastrofe i loše rukovodstvo razorili centralizovanu privredu te zemlje sredinom 1990-ih. Procenjuje se da je od gladi umrlo dva miliona ljudi. Situacija u zemlji, kada je reč o oskudici hrane, pogoršala se ove godine nakon pogubnih poplava 2007.

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 02:48:16 pm »

Trenutno je najgora situacija u gradu Congdzinu (Chongjin), gde upravo treba da se oformi ispostava svetskog programa za hranu, kao i u gradu Hamhung. To su industrijski gradovi, koji nisu okruzeni obradivim zemljistem, a zabrana plovidbe otvorenim morem zbog straha od prebega, sprecava ribarenje u vecem obimu, tako da i to doprinosi gladi. Stavise, situacija sa hranom je toliko teska da cak i vojska oseca glad, i to sve vise. Pristizu izvestaji da vojnici sve intenzivnije idu u pljacku useva po selima. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 05:14:07 pm »

To su vrlo loši znaci.Sada bi stvarno bio najgori momenat da ostanu bez dragog vodje.Nastao bi totalni haos...
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 10:52:13 pm »

Pa vec jeste totalni haos, vec su doterali cara do duvara... Nekada nezamislive pojave, poput piraterje, drumskog razbojnistva, prodaje CD-ova sa juznokorejskim sapunicama su vec uveliko uzele maha... Sada, najvaznija institucija u Severnoj Koreji nije vise partija, vec jangmadang, sto na korejskom znaci pijaca...
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 10:57:27 pm »

Evo i malo svezih vesti o gladi u vojsci...
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Officer Defects Because of Hopeless Situation in North Korea

 
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“Not just the soldiers but the officers are also discontent… In the army, soldiers are advised not to have conversation in groups larger than two. If more than two start talking they always end up criticizing the state.”

The 4th issue of “NK In & Out” published by the Network for North Korean Democracy and Human Rights (NKnet) depicted that North Koreans are more and more discontent with the regime.

During an interview with NKnet, a former North Korean People’s Army officer who defected to China described the hopeless and desperate lives of North Koreans. “This year, there were some people who starved to death even in Pyongyang where I served, let alone countryside… There is no food distribution. The situation in [North] Korea is hopeless so I decided to defect.”

However, lives of the soldiers in the army were described to be better despite poor salary and lack of supplies. “For every soldier, 230g of corn was distributed per meal. Side dishes included three or four pieces of salted radish and cabbage soup. Officers receive half-rice half-corn meal but side dishes are same” he added.

“Although there were no deaths due to starvation, many died from diseases after suffering malnutrition in the army hospital… When I was in the army, 30 to 40 out of 120 soldiers of a company were diagnosed as malnourished. This year’s food distribution was again reduced because of last year’s flood and even more soldiers will suffer from malnourishment.”

Despite the destitute food situation, barracks had electricity 18 hours a day and every soldier had a bed and a locker, NK In & Out reported. There was even a DVD player in each soldiers barrack which was used for educational purposes. But despite education on morality soldiers continue to rob civilians due to lack of food distribution. “Because of the tenuous food situation, soldiers are always angry and desperate. So it is very hard to control them.”

“NK In & Out” further reported that despite education on morality, beatings and corruption still exist in the North Korean army.

Kim S. (31) who was interviewed by NKnet was enlisted in 1995 and commissioned after graduating from an officer candidate school. He had served as an officer for six years until this May. He defected to China in September and is now hiding in a safe place in China. When asked about his future plans, he answered, “I don’t know yet… but for sure, I won’t go back to [North] Korea.”
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