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« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2017, 07:11:28 pm »

A sta rade u Poljskoj? Neka vezba?

S novom oznakom SVLR 122mm M-92 "Vulkan". Jedna bitnica je upravo ovih dana upućena u Poljsku, u okviru pojačane prednje prisutnosti NATO-a.

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2017, 09:12:36 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96FQSPrEbh8&feature=youtu.be



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« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2017, 09:25:14 am »



Зар М-92 није усавршени "Пламен" са новим ракетама?
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« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2017, 10:11:31 am »



Зар М-92 није усавршени "Пламен" са новим ракетама?

Ne, u osnovi to je M-77 konvertiran na kalibar 122mm (GRAD).
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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2017, 01:46:45 pm »

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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2018, 05:28:13 pm »

Par slika Vulkana, premda, na prvoj slici nema čega nema.  Grin
Mislim da do sad nisam vidio oružje sa navučenom zaštitom.

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« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2018, 01:57:18 pm »

Evo još jedna slika iz Poljske, preuzeta sa Obris.org:

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« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2020, 02:57:05 pm »


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The M77 Oganj (fire) multiple launch rocket system was developed in Yugoslavia in the late 1960s. Its prototype was first publicly revealed in 1975 and production commenced in 1980s. This artillery system saw action during the Yugoslav wars. Currently Serbian Army operates about 70 of these systems. A small number might also be in service with other former-Yugoslavia countries.

The M77 Oganj has 32 launching tubes for 128 mm rockets. It fires warheads with anti-tank or anti-personnel submunitions. Maximum range of fire is 20.6 km. A full salvo of this rocket system covers area of 0.36-1.1 ha, depending on the warhead type. It can also fire Serbian newly developed Grad-M and Grad-2000 rockets with improved range and firepower.

The M77 Oganj MLRS is mounted on the FAP 2026 6x6 truck. A 12.7 mm heavy machine gun is mounted on top of the roof for self-defense. Vehicle is fitted with a central tyre inflation system.

The vehicle carries a full set of reload rockets, stored behind the cab in the automatic loader. It speeds up reloading process, however this rocket system can also be reloaded manually. The M77 Oganj can launch two sets of rockets from traveling and leave firing position within 6.5 minutes. In traveling position rocket launcher is covered by hydraulically operated canvas cover, which makes it hard to recognize, as vehicle looks like an ordinary utility truck.

Oganj 2000 ER, a recently developed 122 mm rocket system, based on the Russian KamAZ 8x8 truck. It has 50 launching tubes and carries another 50 reload rockets.

The Croatian company of RH ALAN has marketed a very similar system to the M-77 Oganj but based on a more mobile Tatra (8 × 8) chassis called the 122 mm (32-round) M96 Typhoon. In addition to having greater mobility it has the added advantage of firing the more widely used Russian family of 122 mm unguided artillery rockets. As far as it is known the Croatian system has not been exported. Full details are provided in a separate entry. LRSV M-91 Vulkan appears to be a modified version of the M-77 Organj 128 mm system. It is believed that seven systems are in service with the HV.




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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2020, 03:53:03 pm »



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Posle više decenija sistem Oganj M-77 digitalizovan i razvijen u skladu sa novim potrebama i uslovima ratovanja. Modernizacija ovog lansirnog sistema omogućava da sistem bude operativan za samo par minuta po stizanju na borbeni položaj. Zadržana je koncepcija 32 cevnog lansera za rakete kalibra 122mm G2000/52 ili 122mm "Grad" ili rakete 128mm "Oganj".  Posadu čini 5 članova, to su 4 poslužioca i komandir. Vozilu je potrebno nešto manje od 4 min od stizanja na borbeni položaj da počne sa borbenim dejstvima, što se može i videti u ovom prikazu. Vojska Srbije je modernizacijom ovog sistema dobila mnogo na polju mobilnosti samog sistema i na njegovoj brzini dejstvovanja po dolasku na borbeni položaj.




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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2020, 04:44:16 pm »


Davne 1985., sa izložbe u Kairu International Defence Review piše: "Similar in concept to russian BM-21 "Grad", yugoslav MLRS M-77 Oganj can take the fire position, fire, reload, and scoot in not more than five minutes". I, u čemu smo to revolucionarno odmakli za 35 godina?
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2020, 05:03:47 pm »

Samo u tome da je digitalizovana informatika.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2020, 07:41:45 pm »

Napredavalo se u prakticnom vremenu pripreme i gadjanja. Nekad je za 5 minuta oganj mogao da zauzme vatreni polozaj ali mu je trebalo vise vremena da izvrsi pripremu za gadjanje, da zauzme elemente i gadja.
Sada moze ne samo da zauzme vatreni polozaj vec i da dobije elemente cilja/ciljeva i da ih gadja bukvalno za nekoliko minuta nakon uocavanja cilja.
Poboljsanja se krecu od uocavanja, cilja, prenosa informacije o cilje, izracunavanju elemenata, zauzimanju polozaja i gadjana.
Sada se bukvano trenutno, odredjuje polozaj orudja, na osnovu koordinata cilja se takodje skoro trenutno izracunavaju elementi za gadjanje i zauzimaju elemeti za gadjanje i gadja se.
Reakcija na pojavu cilja je znaci daleko brza i preciznija.
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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2020, 09:19:11 pm »

Znači nije poboljšan Oganj nego sistem za upravljanje vatrom.
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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2020, 06:30:15 am »


Ako je i poboljšan samo SUV i učinio oruđe znatno efikasnijim, to je velika stvar. SUV koji omogućava brže izračunavanje elemenata za gađanje i precizniju vatru je suštinski deo sistema. Sem toga, zar nisu usavršene rakete i time povećan domet za 50%, ili tako nešto? Takođe, iako su cevi VLR kraće od onih za BM-21, piše da može bez izmena na oruđu koristiti  i rakete 122mm i rakete 128mm. To je veoma važno.
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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2020, 06:40:50 am »

Poboljšanje SUV ogromni korak dalje. Sa današnjom tehnologijom nije prevelik izazov. Znam da je još JNA imala one kalkulatore koji imali malo memorije, pa se tako na brzinu izračunavali elementi gađanja.

Znam da je trajalo najduže da topografi izračunaju geo kordinate, a da se sve cijevi okrenu u osnovu smjer. Samo izračunacvanje elemenata i planšeta išlo dosta brzo
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