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« on: January 22, 2015, 08:48:24 am »

Pitanje za znalce. Top se nalazio na monitoru Sava za vrijeme NDH. Ima nekih (polu) informacija, ali ništa konkretno.


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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 09:49:46 am »

Da nije neka modifikacija....?

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Bas i nije..... Huh?
http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/photos/imperial-war-museum/czech-skoda-guns/flak-skoda-76-5mm-m28-l50

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 10:25:36 am »

Obiteljka sličnost postoji. Mogla bi biti Škoda, i Z. Freivogel mi je napisao da misli da je škoda, ali nije siguran 40 ili 60 mm. Nisam uspio pronaći nešto o tim kalibrima, mogao bi biti i taj od 76 mm. Na drugoj slici mornar drži granatu, da li bi po dimenzijama mogla biti 76 mm?


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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 12:39:52 pm »

Skoda 66 mm. iz pomorskog muzeja u Splitu ??

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2015, 01:26:57 pm »

http://www.viribusunitis.ca/Jalbum/Viribus%20Unitis/3D%20Model%20Renders/slides/AntiTB3.html
Ne znam da li je ovaj u muzeju. To je top iz I SR. Opet ima neke sčličnosti i ovo je škoda, ali nije potpuno isti.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 03:13:31 pm »

Tesko je naci, buni ono sa lijeve strane cijevi ispred kupole.
Ovdje se bolje vidi granata 66 mm.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNAust_27-50_Skoda.htm

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 03:28:23 pm »

S lijeve strane je dio koji se nalazi na palubi; kao i s desne strane.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 03:47:47 pm »

Da Jadrane, ono je jednostruka bitva, sa svake strane jedna, u sredini je vitlo.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2015, 04:24:24 pm »

 Huh?


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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2015, 04:49:06 pm »

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2015, 04:53:10 pm »



Dakle, neosporno je utvrđeno da je reč o Škodinom 7cm/50 BAG (ballon abwehr geschuetz), jedno od prvih formacijskih PA oruđa. "Amortizeri" su valjda povratnici trzaja po zvaničnoj terminologiji?
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2015, 04:53:28 pm »

KOliko sam pronašao, A-U dunavska flota imala je dledeče 7 cm topove:

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7 (6,6) cm L/18:

7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/18 in Boots- und Landungs-Lafette C/95 (7cm S.F.K. L/18 in Bts.-u.L(dgs).L. C/95)
simply: 7 cm Boots- und Landungs-Geschütz L/18 C/95
more simply: 7 cm Landungs-Geschütz L/18 C/95 (7cm Ldgs.G. L/18 C/95)
(Qty: 42 on big ships; ~ 6 on smaller ones)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/18 in U-Boots-Lafette K/15 (7cm S.G. L/18 in U-Bts.L. K/15)
simply: 7 cm U-Boots-Geschütz L/18 K/15 (7cm U-Bts.G. L/18 K/15)
(Qty: 2 (S.M.S. „U 10“ & S.M.S. „U 11“)


Technical datas and datas for ammunition of these guns are the same as Army's 7 cm Gebirgs-Geschütz L/18 M/99.



7 (6,6) cm L/20:

7 cm Luftfahrzeugs-Geschütz L/20 in Luftfahrzeugs-Lafette K/16 (7cm Lfz.G. L/20 K/16)
(Qty: at least 4 (Flying Boat „G.2“; „G.3“; „G.5“ & „G.6“)

Same gun as above (L/1, just with a little bit longer barrel.
The proppelant was reduced by 1/3.



7 (6,6) cm L/26:

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in Schiffs-Lafette K/15 (7cm S.G. L/26 K/15)
(Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats of River Danube?)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in U-Boots-Lafette K/15 (7cm U-Bts.G. L/26 K/15)
(Qty: 5 (S.M.S. „U 4“; S.M.S. „U 20“; S.M.S. „U 21“; S.M.S. „U 22“ & S.M.S. „U 23“)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/26 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/16 (7cm B.A.G. L/26 K/16 (Zw))
(Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats and Monitors of River Danube?)



7 (6,6) cm L/30:

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Schiffs-Lafette K/10 (7cm S.G. L/30 K/10)
(Qty: unknown. Only on Patrol Boats and Monitors of River Danube?)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/10/14 (7cm B.A.G. L/30 K/10/14)
(Qty: unknown.)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/30 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/10/16 (7cm B.A.G. L/30 K/10/16)
(Qty: unknown.)



6,6 cm L/35:

6,6 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/35 in Zwillings-Schiffs-Lafette K/30 (6,6 cm S.K. L/35 K/30 (t))
(Czechoslovakian gun.)
(Qty: 2 x Twins. Only on RPB (CZS) „Presydent Masaryck“ later PB (III.R) „Bechelaren“)



7 (6,6) cm L/42:

7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/42 in Schiffs-Lafette C/92 (7cm S.F.K. L/42 C/92)
(Qty: 10 (1x1: S.M.S. „Albatros“ & S.M.S. „Nautilus“; 2x1: S.M.S. „Trabant“; S.M.S. „Planet“; S.M.S. „Erzherzog Rudolf“ & S.M.S. „Erzherzogin Stephanie“)

7 cm Küsten-Kanone L/42 in Mittel-Pivot-Lafette M.08 (7cm Kü.Kn. L/42 M.08 )
(Qty: unknown. Army weapon.)



7 (6,6) cm L/45:

7 cm Schnell-Feuer-Kanone L/45 in Schiffs-Lafette C/97 (7cm S.F.K. L/45 C/97)
(Qty: unknown.)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/45 in Torpedo-Boots-Abwehr-Lafette K/09 (7cm T.A.G. L/45 K/09)
(Qty: unknown.)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/45 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/09/15 (7cm B.A.G. L/45 K/09/15)
(Qty: unknown.)



7 (6,6) cm L/50:

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/50 in Torpedo-Boots-Abwehr-Lafette K/11 (7cm T.A.G. L/50 K/11)
(Qty: unknown.)

7 cm Schiffs-Geschütz L/50 in Ballon-Abwehr-Lafette K/11/15 (7cm B.A.G. L/45 K/11/15)
(Qty: unknown.)

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2015, 05:58:40 pm »

Amortizeri

To me i buni, predugo i vidi se samo jedan. Ima ovdje boljih poznavaoca od mene.
Na axis forumu sam negdje pročitao da je u pitanju 7cm /L50, koliko je to točno ??

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Edit: i na kalemegdanu ima jedna Škodica 66mm, zna li se otkud je ona ?
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2015, 06:09:37 pm »

Amortizeri

To me i buni, predugo i vidi se samo jedan. Ima ovdje boljih poznavaoca od mene.
Na axis forumu sam negdje pročitao da je u pitanju 7cm /L50, koliko je to točno ??

poz.

Edit: i na kalemegdanu ima jedna Škodica 66mm, zna li se otkud je ona ?
Amortizera su dva, a Kumbor je sumirao situaciju.....Ako netko ima bolju varijantu...... Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2015, 02:58:16 pm »

E sad, koji je da je, zgotovio ga...


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