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Author Topic: Nova Slovenska jurišna puška ABK 15  (Read 14915 times)
 
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2016, 04:10:58 pm »

Kundak je nastavljiv po dužini, tako da se ga može produžiti pa ne smeta. Pošto je kod večine ljudi dominantna ruka desna, preklapanje kundaka na tu stranu omogučava lakše nošenje.

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A i puške mislim da nisu namenjene da se koriste za zatvorenim kundakom, nego se to koristi samo kod nošenja.


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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2016, 04:15:39 pm »

@janezek67

koliko sam cuo kazu da i sa sklopljenim kunadakom moze da se manipulise i gadja.

dosta interesantno resenje.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2016, 08:49:10 pm »

Može repetirati pušku, to je bio i pokazano. Barem sa desne strane obarač je na videu pokriven. Ako se kundak produži, onda nezam....

Inače mi se puška sviđa. Više bi voljeo iči ovim kalašem u rat nego sa fn 2000s.

Zanimljivo bi bilo vidjeti, koliko je nova cjev od 18 inča preciznija od originala. I kako ona kočnica sprečava trzanje kalaša na gore.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2016, 09:10:12 pm »

Preklapanje ovakvih kundaka je uvek ukoso (na dole), upravo da bi se moglo repetirati i kada je kundak sklopljen.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2016, 09:18:52 pm »

Moje mišlenje o modifikaciji:
Dobra je promenjena ergonomija kundaka, te se sada pravoliniski prenosi trzaj na rame. Istotako dobra je mogučnost za produženje/skračenje kundaka, i podesiv naslon za lice. Dobro mi je i rešenje kompletnog gornjeg dela, sa dugom šinom, te promena AK nišana sa diopterskim nišanom (verovatno podesiv po visini, služi i kao back up za optiku). Nije da sam pristaš svega i svačega na pušči, ali po iskustvima znam da se ti ubrza i olakša pogađanje ciljeva. Dobro mi se čini i da su ostavili pouzdan (m-70) način rada, koji se može lako promeniti u drugi kalibar (5,56, 5,45 itd).

Fali mi jedino selektor rada i kočnica za palac desne ruke (slično kao M-21), ali pitanje je koliko je potrebna veza selektora za palac sa selektorom na desnoj strani (klasični selektor koga svi poznajemo). Možda bi se tu vez moglo ukloniti, a za zaštitu staviti vratca na feder, koja bi štitila otvor za hod zatvarača i izbacivanje čaura. Istotako bi uveo i zadrživač zatvarača u zadnjem položaju i spuštanje zatvarača dugmetom. Sa tim bi ubrzali vreme menjanja okvira.

Pitanje je, koliko je to potrebno vojnoj upotrebi a koliko sportskim strelcima.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2016, 07:22:25 pm »

Ova modifikacija M70 je na liniji onog sto su rusi uradili sa AK-12 (barem vizuelno) samo su rusi otisli dosta dalje mada cekam da vidim raskopljenu AK-12.
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2016, 07:52:08 pm »

Zadnje verzije, koje su bile na izboru "Ratnik" imaju tih par modifikacija koje sam pomenuo.

Prototip iz 2013 sa preklopnim pokrovom
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Varijanta iz programa Ratnik, jun 2015. Zadnji nišan je preklopni, klasični V ili diopterski, ručica na zatvaraču se može premestiti levo/desno i slično.

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Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is gas operated, selective fire weapon using traditional “Kalashnikov type” action with long stroke gas piston and rotary bolt locking. Bolt group is noticeably lightened to decrease recol and improve accuracy in full-automatic fire. Barrel has improved rifling for better accuracy, and a revised muzzle brake. The receiver is redesigned, key modification being new top cover of more rigid design. Elongated top cover is removably attached to the receiver using two dovetails (at the middle and at the front) plus a captive cross-pin at the rear. To remove top cover, user has to push the cross pin out as far as it will go, then slide the cover back and pull it up and off the gun. Safety / fire selector unit is also revised, to provide more ergonomic ambidextrous switch with 4 positions (Safe, Semi-auto, 2-rd bursts, Automatic). Safety / selector levers are located above the pistol grip, at both sides of the gun. Charging handle is Z-shaped and is attached to the gas piston. It can be rotated to either side of the gun once the bolt group is removed from the gun during disassembly. When gun is fired, charging handle reciprocates along with the bolt.  New side-folding, telescoping adjustable stock is provided for AK-12. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle features integral Picatinny rail at the top cover, and additional accessory rails at the top and both sides of the forend. Bottom section of the forend is available in two versions – with rail (to accept various ‘tactical’ accessories like lights and foregrips) or plain one (to accept standard 40mm grenade launchers like GP-25 or GP-30). Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle accepts all ‘legacy’ magazines in its respective caliber, such as 30-round AKM or AK-74 and 40-round RPK / 45-round RPK-74 magazines. Additionally, new, 4-stack, 60-round box magazine and 95-round drum are planned to be issued for AK-12 chambered in 5.45mm. Gun features bolt hold-open device which is controlled by a lever, located at the front of the trigger guard, above the enlarged magazine release lever. It must be noted that this bolt hold-open device works only with modificed magazines. AK-12 also features redesigned integral iron sights. Shrouded front sight is installed above the gas block. Adjustable rear sight has reversible (rotating) blade with aperture (diopter) on one side and U-shaped notch on another. To switch between options user has to raise rear sight and then rotate the blade through 180 degrees to either side.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 09:51:10 pm »

Ne možeš od stare mazge da praviš konja. Samo mi se čini, da bi kupovinom ak 12 dobili čak jeftiniju pušku neko kad bi pravili modifikaciju akb 15. Da su to uradili nekde u godini 1995 - 2000, to bi bio hit. Sada slovenačka vojska jedino ako dođe do nekog lobiranja sa strane Arex-a neče kupiti. Ma da bi lično otišao rađe u rat sa AKB 15 nego sa F2000s.
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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 10:02:52 pm »

Pa slovenačka vojska ovo neće sigurno kupiti. Šta bi radila praktično novim puškama sa FN F2000? Da ih baci? Pa to bi samo budale uradile. Ovu modifikaciju ABK 15 ova firma možda može prodati nekoj zemlji koja ima ili M-70 ili  AK-47 pa da te puške preradi.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2016, 12:44:54 am »

Slovenačka vojska ima 6500 pušaka što je za redovni sustav dovoljno, a rezerva ima još m70. Premaplau bi trebali ukupno imati 14.000 pušaka, što neče biti ostvareno. Ako bi jih kupili još barem 2000-3000, mogli bi iz rezerv baciti i m70.
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