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« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2018, 02:25:58 pm »


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« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2018, 02:27:35 pm »


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« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2018, 11:45:04 am »


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« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2018, 12:38:14 pm »

Spominje se kolicina od 3 do 17 aviona koji su morali biti ostavljeni u bazi koju je pogodio uragan.
Navodno su avioni bili u raznim fazama odrzavanja i nije bilo dovoljno vremena da se osposbe za prelet.
F-22 su ostavljeni u najacim hangarima i za sada USAF neiznosi podatak o njihovom stanju a QF-16 (F-16 preradjen u bespilotne letelice / mete za raketiranje) su avioni sa narandzastim krajevima krila i vertikalaca koji se vide ostecen u hangarima.


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Tyndall F-22s and T-38 aggressors pack into one of the base's main hangars to ride out Hurricane Alberto. That hangar was clearly not capable of taking the brunt of category 4 hurricanes.


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Setting The Record Straight On Why Fighter Jets Can't All Simply Fly Away To Escape Storms

At modern fighter is not a Honda Accord. You don't just hop in it and drive it around for months until you finally have to take it for a one-hour oil change when the light comes on. If anything, they are far more akin to high-end sports cars that require a lot of expensive TLC to keep operating. The F-22, in particular, is more analogous to an exotic supercar or even a high-end race car than anything else. It requires dozens of hours of maintenance for every single flight hour and deep maintenance can take days or even many weeks to accomplish, depending on what is needed to be done and availability of spare parts, which can be scarce.

On top of some aircraft being sidelined for extended periods of time for repairs, others have to go through periodic planned servicing, discreet component inspections, and invasive phase inspections, the latter of which sees the aircraft largely disassembled before being arduously put back together and flight tested before returning it to the active flight line after all its issues, or 'gripes,' are worked out. In other words, many of these operations are not ones you can simply stop and reverse to rapidly generate the aircraft into a flying condition in a matter of a day or two—in some cases, not even close. There are always a number of aircraft going through these planned maintenance intervals, that way a squadron's inventory can remain fairly predictable given the demands being placed upon it. 

So it is not uncommon to have at least a handful of a unit's aircraft incapable of flying due to foreseen maintenance, let alone unforeseen issues. That number can actually grow higher based on the type, the age of the aircraft, and the general readiness status of the aircraft's community overall.

The F-22 fleet, in particular, sits at the lowest readiness rate across the USAF fast-jet inventory. There are a number of contributing factors to this, including the type's short production run that pretty much everyone regrets in hindsight. But as of 2017, the F-22 community as a whole struggled to meet a 50 percent mission capable rate. Their legacy fighter predecessors fared better at generally above 70 percent.

So no, the commanders at Tyndall AFB—the home of F-22 training and a base with 55 of the stealth fighters on hand, as well as the home to many other aircraft—can't simply click their flight boots together and magically get 55 F-22s in the air. And the very idea that those that lead elite fighter units don't care enough about preserving the jets they have under their purview is simply outrageous. Trust me, anyone at a command level in the USAF fighter community cares plenty about their aircraft. If you think otherwise then you haven't spent much time around these types of individuals or the culture they operate in.

But you know what commanders generally care more about than their jets? The lives of the humans under their command. This is not some abstract challenge to see how many jets can fly in a matter of few days. The crew chiefs, airframe technicians, pilots, egress shop people, accountants, operations folks, and every one of the hundreds of other people that make up a squadron all have lives outside of their jobs and families to protect.

It seems as if some think that somehow a catastrophic storm doesn't impact those who work in the air combat business. They have to evacuate just like any other person in a community. They can't be sitting around tinkering on F-22s as a category four storm crashes into their hangar. They also have to support the crazy logistical operation of evacuating the aircraft that can fly, which is no easy feat.

There is only so much capacity in a very finite amount of time that these individuals can provide during a hurricane evacuation scenario. At a certain point, they too have to rush to safety with their loved ones. And for very good reason. 100 percent of the housing on Tyndall and infrastructure to support daily life was destroyed by Michael. It's all gone, and yet nobody died. You can view highly detailed imagery of the base here to see what it looks like in Michael's aftermath.

As for many of the childish notions that many have thrown around over the last 24 hours with great authority—like flying aircraft away on transports or wheeling them out on trucks—they don't help inform the public of the realities of these types of evacuation operations. No, these planes aren't just Lego sets that you can take apart and pour into a C-5. Removing wings on an F-22? That is a massive undertaking, let alone getting a C-5 in and loading it up to fly away to someplace. Once again, limited capacity in a limited timespan, and that is a long-lead type of project.

Throwing jets on flatbed trucks? People don't realize how large of a flying machine a Raptor is. They are roughly 44 feet wide, 62 feet long, and weigh over 43,000lbs. They are not something you just throw on pop's flatbed and skidaddle out of dodge. Nor are they made to be transported that way in the first place. And to where? You are talking about a highly sensitive asset packed with classified material. Its skin treatment alone presents a national secret risk. These aircraft are supposed to sit in last minute hurricane traffic heading somewhere as they hog up multiple lanes? The whole notion is ridiculous. And if they can't seek refuge in time, you have a flying machine strapped to a flatbed. Good luck with that.

Yes, F-22s are a woefully scarce and finite commodity within the USAF. Any loss, or even damage, to a Raptor is a significant event that has a real impact on the total force. But there is no getting around it, there will likely be substantial losses of not just Raptors but also T-38A Talon aggressors and Mu-2 radar operator training aircraft, not to mention QF-16s, due to Michael. When it comes to the QF-16s, the USAF spent millions per airframe turning those jets into full-scale aerial targets (FSATs) fairly recently. They can fly for years with or without a pilot in the cockpit after going through that conversion, so losing a number of them is not just some trivial thing and those airframes are badly needed for critical weapons testing and development purposes.

The harsh truth is that fighter aircraft are not 737s, they don't just reliably churn out hours upon hours of flight time without a major issue. They are finicky, maintenance intensive, and comparatively unreliable thoroughbred fighting machines that spend far more time on the ground broken than in the air—or even being capable of being in the air in the F-22's case. And the more complex they are the less consistent they are operationally speaking. So save the outrage over F-22s left behind at Tyndall and let's discuss solutions to what will clearly be an increasingly common and crushingly expensive issue to contend with in the future.

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« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2018, 12:41:02 pm »


Nekoliko fotografija aviona koji su bili smešteni u Tyndall Air Force Base.


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« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2018, 12:43:39 pm »

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F-22 Shipping a fighter via transport is a big and laborious undertaking


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« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2018, 08:55:05 pm »

Novinari takođe postavljaju pitanje i kako to da je 22 od 55 aviona neoparativno. Obzirom na mali broj tih aviona i da su relativno mladi to je katastrofalan podatak. Pod uslovom da je tačan jer vojska do sad ništa nije potvrdila ali ni dematovala, a mislim i da neće obzirom da ih ukupno ima manje od 200 i verovatno kriju informacije o njihovom tačnom broju.
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« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2018, 08:08:05 am »

Radi se o  bazi za obuku i za amerikance pogotovu sa ovim "restriktivnim" finansiranjem nije strano da imaju toliko aviona koji su na odrzavanju. Uglavnom se radi o redovnom odrzavanju u okviru same eskadrile.

Takvo stanje traje vec duze i u drugim jedinicama barem po onome sto se moze procitati iz insajderskih izvora a vezano za ispravnost aviona koji nisu razmesteni u inostranstvu, nosacima aviona i helikoptera ili nisu u jedinicama koje su u borbenom dezurstvu.

Uglavnom ta mala raspolozivost je rezultat, slabijeg finansiranja tj nedovoljna raspolozivost rezervnih delova u samim bazama, dugog cekanja na rezervne delove, starosti aviona (F-16,15,18) i sl.

Ali kada treba da razmeste van USA svoje avione ovi problemi se brzo resavaju i ispravnost se podize na visok procenat.
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« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2018, 10:41:42 am »


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« Reply #84 on: March 03, 2019, 11:25:44 am »

.............................................. a QF-16 (F-16 preradjen u bespilotne letelice / mete za raketiranje) suavioni sa narandzastim krajevima krila i vertikalaca koji se vide ostecen u hangarima.
Ko to kaže da su bespilotne letilice (QF-16) Grin
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Tek kad se odluči da se gađaju raketama V-V ili Z-V skidaju se sedišta i ostala nepotrebna oprema, kad stvarno postaju (daljinski upravljane) "bespilotne" letilice

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« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2019, 12:16:46 pm »



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« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2019, 07:30:00 pm »

По мом лаичком суду одлична демонстрација летних особина.
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« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2019, 06:37:43 pm »



Pogled iz kokpita aviona F-22 „reptor”


Demonstracioni tim američkog ratnog vazduhoplovstva, koji u SAD i širom sveta predstavlja lovački avion pete generacije F-22 „reptor”, prvi put je objavio snimak iz kokpita jednog od najboljih aviona današnjice.


U Americi je u toku ovogodišnja sezona nastupa ovih vrhunskih pilota i aviona.


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« Reply #88 on: June 03, 2019, 08:17:11 pm »

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« Reply #89 on: June 03, 2019, 10:22:17 pm »

По мом лаичком суду одлична демонстрација летних особина.

Нема шта. рекао бих да су потпуна управљивост на минималним брзинама и лепо контролисани ковит веома важне особине.

У горњем клипу нисам приметио да је Ф-22 стигао Скајхока, познатог по доброј покретљивости, те да га је "упуцао", зашавши му у реп. Уопште не сумњам да је Ф-22 врхунски авион, за разлику од Ф-35.
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