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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2010, 09:10:39 pm »

Evo Dred, pogledah malo po arhivi pa da napišem detaljnije i prvo se ispravim - ime broda ispravno se piše kao “Conet Geza Szapary”. Izgradjen je 1874 na Rijeci za poznatu pomorsku porodicu Kozulić, a ime je dobio po jednom od madjarskih guvernera Rijeke. Brod je 1904 prodat jednom turskom državljaninu iz Skadra.
“Conte Geza Szapary” bio je dug 45,3 metara, širok 8,92 a visok 6, 02 metra I imao je 593 neto-tone.
12.februara 1904 Kozulić je brod koji ga je vjerno služio trideset godina tokom kojih je “Conte Geza Stzapary” oplovio čitav svijet, prodao turskom državljaninu iz Skadra a ovaj je brodu ime promijenio u “Massalah Bilalli”. Brod je početkom Prvog svjetskog rata prevozio pomoć u hrani, municiji i ratnom materijalu za Crnu Goru izmedju Barija I albanskih luka gdje su ga u luci San Djovani di Medua u decembru 1915 iznenadili autrougarski ratni brodovi i teško oštetili torpedom. Nisam našao podatke koji su austro-ugarski brodovi bili u pitanju, ali sam gotovo siguran da se radilo o krstarici “Novara” i par razarača kojima je komandovao Mikloš Horti. Kako god, brod je “sjeo” na plitko dno luke, da bi ga pomoćni brodovi austro-ufgarske RM, nakon kapitulacije Crne Gore koja je uslijedila nedugo potom, doteglili u Tivat na popravak. Kao što rekoh, temeljita popravka je trebalo da se odradi u Puli, ali se to nikada nije digodilo i brod je kraj Prvog svjetskog rata dočekao u Tivtu da bi 1920 godine bio premješeten u Kotor.
Iz nepoznatih razloga bivši “Conte Geza Szapary” je dobio prodor vode i “sjeo” na dno uz operativnu obalu kod Gurdića, u aprilu 1922, upravo u momentu kada je trebalo da bude otegljen na generalni remont u Kraljevicu. Brod je ipak bio u dosta dobrom stanju, ali je formalno-pravno, vlasništvo nad njim dugo bilo sporno i neodredjeno, pa se postupak njegovog spašavanja otegao. Za to vrijeme brod se definitivno rasušio i onako polupotopljen, izvrnuo na lijevi bok. Olupina je iz akvatorijuma luke Kotor uklonjena tek 1935 godine.
Olupina se dobro vidi i u donjem lijevom uglu ove fotografije Kotora.



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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2010, 09:31:16 pm »

Marinero, zanimljivo!
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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2010, 10:00:25 pm »

Iz memoara Miklosa Horthyja...... mozda se misli na ovaj napad - koji je spomenuo i Marinero :

On another occasion, this decoder informed me that enemy signals had been
referring repeatedly to a fleet that was to transport ordnance to Lovcen to
replace the batteries that had been put out of action, together with arms,
munitions and supplies for the Montenegrin and Serbian armies. He had been
unable to ascertain the date of sailing, nor had he been able to discover the
place of embarcation or the destination. On reflection, I decided that Durazzo
was too far from Montenegro, Antivari too near the Bocche di Cattaro, so that
the transport would probably call at San Giovanni di Medua, the Albanian
harbour occupied at that time by the Serbs.
I asked the flotilla commander for four destroyers to escort the Novara in case
of a surprise attack by superior enemy forces. With these, I set out at eleven
o’clock one night on the off-chance, my main objective being to arrive at the
harbour mouth unseen in the dusk.
We knew that there was a battery of ten guns there. We hugged the rocky
Albanian coast until we arrived at the breakwater.
We could see a single-storied house, in which the gun-crews were
probably asleep. One salvo sufficed to blow up the house and thereby put the
battery out of action. With a beating heart, I advanced. Were we going to find
anything there or not? When the view was clear, we saw, to our intense joy, a
harbour full of ships; later we learned that they had arrived the night before. It
was sheer luck! Had we come a day earlier, we should have found an empty
harbour; a day later, and much of the cargo would have already been
unloaded. After giving the crews time to leave their ships, I gave the order to
open fire. One ship blew up, a second caught fire, a third sank soundlessly.

A sailing ship was burning with a weird yellow light, she may have had a cargo of
salt.


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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2010, 06:44:40 am »

Veliko hvala Marinero i Jadrane ...


Eto još jedne crtice za istoriju pomorstva, koju razotkriste ... Još jedan dokaz da se udruženim snagama na Palubi svašta može postići 
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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2010, 11:14:46 am »

Istorija tivatskog pomorskog turizma Grin - prva pedalina u Tivtu, pocetkom 20-tih godina 20.vijeka.



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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2010, 11:17:39 am »

Panorama Tivat 1957 godine. U desnom uglu slike, u krajnjem dijelu tzv. velikog mandraca Arsenala, su dva broda koji meni siluetama najvise lice na razarace tipa W (Kotor i Pula).


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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2010, 05:27:16 pm »

Istorija tivatskog pomorskog turizma Grin - prva pedalina u Tivtu, pocetkom 20-tih godina 20.vijeka.

Sjajno Marinero, sjajno 
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« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2010, 01:08:42 am »

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« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2010, 10:48:54 pm »

Palata "Ivovic" u Donjoj Lastvi kod Tivta. Nazalsot, ovaj prelijepi objekat vise ne postoji jer su ga odlucili srusiti nakon yemljotresa 1979 iako palata u tom potresu usopste nije bila ozbiljno ostecena. :'(
Na drugoj fotki je neka ljetnje festa ispred pomenute palate i naravno, u njoj neizbjezni ucesnici, mornari RM.


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« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2010, 09:41:21 pm »

Gradska riva Pine u Tivtu pocetkom 20-tih.....


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« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2010, 09:49:21 pm »

Brodarski voli ove stare parnjače - Luka u Risnu, mislim da su u pitanju 30-te godine proslog vijeka.


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« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2010, 09:52:36 pm »

Dom slijepih u Risnu. Predivna zgrada, nazalost danas je u derutnom stanju, stoje samo 4 gola zida...



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« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2011, 11:45:24 am »

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« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2011, 02:11:25 pm »

Prelijepo, bravo Dred! Na prvoj fotografiji u prvom planu je vila "Andjelija". Wink
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« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2011, 07:26:26 pm »

Molim dodatno objašnjenje - gde se nalazi Pristan sa slike koju je Dread postavio?
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