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« on: June 17, 2009, 04:28:30 pm »




Pronađena olupina Sovjetske podmornice S2 iz Sovjetsko-Finskog rata



Tim Finskih i Švedskih ronilaca je pronašao olupinu Sovjetske podmornice S2 (kalse Stalinec) koja je potonula 02.01.1940 u blizini Alandskih ostrva u Baltičkom moru za vreme Sovjetsko-Finskog "zimskog rata". Podmornica je naletela na minu koju je položio Finski minopolagač "Louhi" pri čemu je poginulo svih 50 članova posade. Potraga za podmornicom je trajala više od 10 godina, od Aprila 1999 godine.

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Divers discover wreckage of Soviet WWII submarine in Baltic Sea

10.06.2009
A team of Swedish and Finnish divers have located the wreckage of a Soviet WWII S-type diesel submarine near the Aland islands in the Baltic Sea, a Swedish news agency said on Tuesday.

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The S-2 submarine sank on January 2, 1940 in a minefield during the Winter War between the Soviet Union and Finland (November 1939-March 1940). The entire 50-member crew was lost.

"After searching through a section of water the wreck has been found in the Aland Sea near the [maritime] border between Sweden and Finland by a Swedish-Finnish dive team," the TT agency cited a team statement.

The team started the search for the sub more than a decade ago in April 1999.

Swedish authorities as well as the Russian embassy in Sweden have been informed about the discovery, the team said.

S-type medium submarines, unofficially dubbed Stalinets, were one of the most widely produced and deployed submarine class in the Soviet Navy during World War II.

Boats of this class were extremely successful and achieved more victories than any Soviet submarine. In all, they sank 82,770 gross registered tons of merchant shipping and seven warships, which accounts for about one-third of all tonnage sunk by Soviet submarines.

Izvor: www.en.rian.ru


Baltic Sea divers find sunk WWII Soviet submarine
   
(STOCKHOLM) After a decade- long search, a team of Baltic Sea divers has discovered the wreckage of a Soviet submarine that sank with dozens of sailors aboard during World War II, one of the divers said on Tuesday.

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Lost and found: The vessel exploded in 1940, probably after hitting a mine, killing all 50 crew members on board

They found the S-2 submarine near the Aland Islands between Sweden and Finland in February but only announced it on Tuesday because they wanted to confirm the identity of the vessel, team member Marten Zetterstrom said.

He said that all 50 crew members died when the vessel exploded in 1940, probably after hitting a mine. He declined to give the exact location.

'I think it's been 10 years since people started searching. I've been part of it for four-five years,' Mr Zetterstrom said.

Markus Lindholm, an Aland-based specialist who studied pictures of the wreck, said that the claim appeared to be true.

'According to all available sources, no other submarine has sunk in those waters,' said Mr Lindholm, curator of maritime archaeology at Finland's National Board of Antiquities.

The submarine was last spotted at surface level by a lighthouse keeper on Market island, west of the Aland archipelago, Mr Lindholm said. He said that the keeper's notes of the incident have been preserved and describe how the vessel headed north before diving and entering a Finnish minefield, after which an explosion was heard.

Mr Lindholm said that pictures showed the front of the submarine was missing, apparently torn off by an explosion.

'The mine must have hit the submarine hull near the torpedo tubes and then the whole thing blew up,' he said.

Mr Zetterstrom said that the divers had informed Swedish and Russian authorities about the discovery.

Swedish Defence Ministry spokesman Mikael Ostlund said that the ministry had not had a chance to confirm the claim.

Anatoly Kargapolov, a spokesman at the Russian Embassy in Stockholm, confirmed that the embassy had been informed about the submarine but added that there had not been 'any official reaction from Moscow'.


Izvor: www.businesstimes.com.sg



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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 12:33:39 pm »

pronaša u lanjskom Moru

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 03:10:31 pm »

Evo sta Wiki kaze o ovoj klasi podmornica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_S_class_submarine

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S-56


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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 11:48:01 pm »

Mora da je bilo jezivih prizora prilikom penetracije olupine! A na video klipu o S-56 se pojavljuje slika Aleksandra Marineska, komandanta podmornice S-13, koji nikada nije komandovao izloženom podmornicom.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 03:04:37 pm »



Pronađena ruska podmornica Š-216



CRNO MORE
Nađena podmornica s 47-članom posadom iz 1944.

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Danas masovna grobnica, a nekad podmornica sovjetske Crvene armije koja je nestala u zimu 1944. godine, pronađena je ovih dana uz obalu ukrajinskog poluotoka Krima.

Potonula na 52 metra dubine blizu rta Tarhankut, submarina Š-216 (Šuka) u trenutku nestanka navodno je imala posadu od 47 ljudi. Nestala je tijekom vojne operacije prije 69 godina, a ovih dana pomoću aparata Sofoklo-1 pronašli su je članovi Crnomorskog centra za podvodna istraživanja.

'Voda je prodrla samo u jedan odjeljak, a ostali nisu oštećeni. To je očito po načinu na koji podmornica leži na dnu. Nije utonula u zemlju, nego praktički leži na površini', izjavio je za portal 15 minut Sergej Voronov, direktor Centra koji već radi na dozvolama da izvadi plovilo iz mora.

Premijer Autonomne Republike Krim Anatolij Mohiljov najavio je potragu za rodbinom članova posade, sahranu posmrtnih ostataka mornara i podjelu njihove imovine za koju se pretpostavlja da će biti nađena u podmornici. Mediji prenose i planove lokalnih vlasti da se plovilo pretvori u povijesni muzej.

Podmornice tipa Šuka dale su velik obol u obrani Sovjetskog Saveza od nacističke Njemačke u 2. svjetskom ratu. Korišteno ih je 44, a 31 je uništena. Prije otkrića kod Tarhankuta, zadnju su 2002. našli bugarski ribari. Još 15 ih nije pronađeno.

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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 03:40:40 pm »

Submarina?!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 04:34:44 pm »

Submarina?!  Roll Eyes
Tako Rusi nazivaju podmornicu; jedan od naziva.....
http://lenta.ru/news/2013/07/05/crimea/
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 06:40:24 pm »


Oprostite, ali ovo traži malo objašnjenje. Književni naziv je podvodnaja lodka (подводная лодка), kraće podlodka, tj. podvodna lađa (reči lađa i lodka (staroruski lad`ja) imaju isti drevneslovenski koren). Submarina je zastareli naziv (kao kod nas aeroplan). Kad sam već pošao u sitna crevca, nije klasa Š, već Šč (Щ - slovo/glas Šča), tj. Ščuka = štuka - vrsta ribe.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 09:53:48 pm »

I jedna od najkoriscenijih sovjetskih podmornica u drugom svetskom ratu. Inace, kompletirane su 88 podmornica (poslednje dve usle u upotrebu posle 1945 godine, a potopljene (na sve nacine, ne samo od njemaca) 35. Barem prema vikipediji Smiley .
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 10:36:49 pm »

Submarina jest možda zastarjeli naziv, ali se itekako koristi u ruskoj literaturi, čisto onako da razbije monotonost korištenja izraza...Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2013, 08:50:48 am »

Kumbore i Nupnice, vi ste u pravu, stvarno upotreba je takva
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2013, 09:38:36 am »


Inače, "Štuka" je omiljeni naziv za klase podmornica u Rusiji. Osim podmornica Šč. iz WWII, tu oznaku popularno nose i podmornice Pr.671 RTM i RTMK (Victor II i III), a PLA pr.971 (Akula) popularno se nazivaju Ščuka-B (Buki). Zanimljivo je da su i u sovjetsko vreme, a i danas, pojedini brodovi (naročito u okviru jedinice), ili klase brodova, po rednom slovnom označavanju dobijali nezvanične nazive koji se transkribuju po slovima stare ćirilice - Аз, Буки, Вједи, Глагољ, itd.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 10:03:30 am »

I kod nas se još od "Velikog rata" sve do 1945 koristio izraz Sumaren.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2013, 10:42:44 am »

I kod nas se još od "Velikog rata" sve do 1945 koristio izraz Sumaren.
Многи ће од њих бити плен,
Кад дође швапски СУМАРЕН.
Много је Срба пропало,
У мору хладном остало.

Радости нема ни за трен,
Наиђе швапски СУМАРЕН,
Сви моле светог Николу,
Његову силу на мору

Одломци из песме Креће се лађа Француска (1925).
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2013, 11:07:05 am »

I kod nas se još od "Velikog rata" sve do 1945 koristio izraz Sumaren.
Многи ће од њих бити плен,
Кад дође швапски СУМАРЕН.
Много је Срба пропало,
У мору хладном остало.

Радости нема ни за трен,
Наиђе швапски СУМАРЕН,
Сви моле светог Николу,
Његову силу на мору

Одломци из песме Креће се лађа Француска (1925).

Bravo JASON  to mi i jeste bila asocijacija ali i deo iz Jakovljevićeve Srpske trilogije gde se spominje strah i strepnja od dejstva SUMARENA preživelih sa albanske golgote ukrcanih na brodove da se prevezu do Krfa.
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