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« on: September 10, 2009, 03:24:18 pm »

There was a fixed land Torpedo launching instalation in Kotor.  I have a reference that it had 9 torpedo tubes, it was build before WW1 and was apparently functional at time of Italian occupation. Anyone can tell me more about it?
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 05:29:10 pm »

This are the source i have for the information above.

http://www.val-navtika.net/val-134/zgodovina/boka_kotorska-vojaska_zgodovina/

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Avstrijci so sploh vso Boko Kotorsko od 1850 do 1860 pod vodstvom admirala Lazarja Mamule temeljito utrdili in oborožili. Zgradili ali obnovili so osem trdnjav, pripeljali na desetine novih topov in na stotine min. Sam vhod v Boko sta varovali dve trdnjavi s po 40 topovi in minske zapore, ki so bile predvidene tudi za važna preliva Kumbor in Verige. Prvo svetovno vojno je v Boki pričakalo 3.500 vojakov posadke, 218 trdnjavskih topov s kalibri od 37 do 305 mm, 99 mitraljezov, 46 močnih žarometov in devet torpednih cevi.

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"Austrians are all Boko Kotorsko from 1850 to 1860 under the leadership of Admiral LÁZÁR Mamula thoroughly consolidate and armed. Built or renovated the eight fortresses, leading to dozens of new guns and hundreds of minutes. Sam Boko the entrance to the fortress to protect two of 40 guns and mine barrages, which were also provided for the important Channel Kumbor and Chains. First World War in the hips pričakalo 3500 the crew of soldiers, 218 cannons trdnjavskih with gauges from 37 to 305 mm, 99 mitraljezov, 46 strong headlamps and nine torpedo tubes."

and below still operational at time of WW2 with Italian occupation:

http://www.sassaia.it/tenenteboffa.html refers "con stazione lanciasiluri a Kobila" about a land based Torpedo station at Kobila in Kotor. It is from an italian soldier there in occupation period.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 10:30:20 am »

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There was a fixed land Torpedo launching instalation in Kotor.  I have a reference that it had 9 torpedo tubes, it was build before WW1 and was apparently functional at time of Italian occupation. Anyone can tell me more about it?

Actually, to correct location is not Kotor, but Kumbor, same in Boka Kotorska bay. A few days ago, I'v been there in my pass, so I was able to take a few shots, at which you can see the old torpedo station (which was operational in its basic purpose until late 70-ties, maybe later - there are some man on this forum who worked there in some period as torpedo officers).


* Kumbor 1.JPG (53.44 KB. 680x506 - viewed 254 times.)


* Kumbor 2.JPG (62.54 KB. 681x511 - viewed 257 times.)



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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 06:49:05 pm »

Excellent. Thank for the photos, amazing that was still operational in 70's i suppose with newer torpedos. Do you know if in Second World War  torpedos were still WWI vintage, i suppose Whitehead?
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 06:49:48 pm »

4 Photos of Castelnuovo(Dalmatia) i think it is now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaštel_Novi   under Italian occupation

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/search.html?start=1069&query=what%3AMarina+militare+italiana


A Twin FN gun mount maybe taken - it looks like an aircraft turret- from one of Yugoslav floatplanes put into a land contraption also in Castelnuovo - photos probably good source for Modelers:

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/08602/743BEE4701A96AA47D4787604D8686430DAB7F8E.html?start=868&query=what%3AMarina+militare+italiana&startPage=865
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 10:21:39 pm »

4 Photos of Castelnuovo(Dalmatia) i think it is now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaštel_Novi   under Italian occupation

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/search.html?start=1069&query=what%3AMarina+militare+italiana


A Twin FN gun mount maybe taken - it looks like an aircraft turret- from one of Yugoslav floatplanes put into a land contraption also in Castelnuovo - photos probably good source for Modelers:

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/08602/743BEE4701A96AA47D4787604D8686430DAB7F8E.html?start=868&query=what%3AMarina+militare+italiana&startPage=865

Castel nouvo is Kaštel Novi near Split, but in this case Castel nuovo is Herceg Novi in Montenegro.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 10:39:43 pm »

Photos of Mg. mount are showing Tivat, near Herceg Novi, in today`s Montenegro. I have never seen using name  Castelnuovo as one solid word for anything else except Herceg Novi, at the entrance to Bocche di Cattaro - bay of Kotor. I think that Kaštel Novi near Split is written as two words (e.g. Castel Nuovo) and has traditionally a bit different spelling in italian, especially in veneto dialect.
Also,  Castelnuovo, or Herceg Novi, was not always considered part of Dalmatia, through history. It depends on the century in case, and sometimes on the origin of a historian.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 12:37:50 pm »

Herceg Novi- Castelnuovo di Cattaro.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2012, 02:25:38 pm »

Thanks everyone so this are Tivat photos. I corrected my data.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2014, 12:37:00 am »

Said to be Kobila Torpedo Battery

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