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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2014, 10:35:59 pm »


Na pojedinim ranim PBR klase Kraljevica bio je Mousetrap, manja, olakšana i prilično neefikasna varijanta ježa. Prilikom remonta i modernizacije poslednje serije (podtip 519-521 i 524), ugrađena su po četiri RBU-1200. Zajedno sa sonarom QCU, to je PBR davalo značajne Ppd. mogućnosti. Taj drevni američki sonar bio je upotrebljiviji za Jadran od SQ3D na Mirnama.
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« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2014, 10:09:31 am »

Koliko se sećam svi patrolci su imali Simrad SQ3D/SF sonare.
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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2015, 07:35:30 pm »


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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2015, 07:36:12 pm »


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« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2015, 07:37:33 pm »


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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2015, 07:38:07 pm »


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« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2015, 07:55:50 pm »

Bozo, lepa prilika da se neposredno upoznaš sa PP raketnim lanserima, koje smo i mi imali u naoružanju.

Jesu li uz lansere izložili i rakete?
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« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2015, 07:58:30 pm »

Nažalost nisu, ali je zanimljivo videti koliko je princip aktiviranja raketa sličan kao i kod M-63 Plamen. kad čovek razmisli, ni ne treba da je različit ali dok ne vidiš jednostavno zaboraviš na takve detaile.
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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2015, 12:47:29 pm »

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И како то изгледа доље...


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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2017, 09:30:52 pm »

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« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2017, 11:08:39 am »

Kolika je bila učinkovitost ovih oružja ("jež")? Postoje li primjeri njihove stvarne upotrebe u svijetu?
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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2017, 11:15:14 am »

na nekim starijim patrolcima bilo je nešto slično ovom..

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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2017, 03:09:34 pm »

na nekim starijim patrolcima bilo je nešto slično ovom..

Dok je Hedgehog (jež) bio često efikasno oružje, Mousetrap - mišolovka, kao ova na slici Brodarskog služila je možda više da podmornicu uplaši, te da ona izroni. U sklopu MDAP programa sa SAD jedan deo patrolaca klase "Kraljevica", (tip 501) dobio je ove bacače. Sonar QCU-2 na PBR tipa 501 bio je mnogo bolji od sovjetskog sonara "Tamir" za male brodove, ali sam po sebi nje bio neko dostignuće. Takvo je bilo vreme, tehnologija sonara bila je tada (početkom 50ih) na početku svog posleratnog razvoja.
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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2017, 07:11:02 pm »

Kolika je bila učinkovitost ovih oružja ("jež")? Postoje li primjeri njihove stvarne upotrebe u svijetu?

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The prototype launcher was tested aboard HMS Westcott in 1941, but there were no submarine kills until November 1942, after it had been installed aboard one hundred ships. Initial success rates – of about 5% – were only slightly better than depth charges. Swells and spray frequently covered the launcher during heavy North Atlantic weather, and subsequent attempts to launch often revealed firing circuit problems launching an incomplete pattern. The disappointment of a quiet miss discouraged crews who might otherwise assume depth charge explosions had damaged their target or at least frightened the enemy. The Royal Navy launched Hedgehog so seldom in early 1943 that a directive was issued ordering captains of ships equipped with hedgehog to report why they had not used Hedgehog on an underwater contact. The results were blamed on crew inexperience and low confidence in the weapon. However, after an officer from the DMWD was sent to Londonderry Port, where the convoy crews were based, with better training and shipwide talks on examples of successful Hedgehog attacks, the kill rate improved considerably. By the end of the war, statistics showed that on average, one in every five attacks made by Hedgehog resulted in a kill (compared to less than one in 80 with depth charges).
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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2017, 07:32:57 pm »

Koliko se sećam svi patrolci su imali Simrad SQ3D/SF sonare.

To posle remonta i modernizacije PBR 519-524 u SaKo. Izvorno su imali američki sonar.
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