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« Reply #525 on: April 06, 2018, 06:21:24 am »

Ovo oko 1,2 milijarde $ za 28 Super Horneta za Kuwait nešto ne valja. Suviše jeftino.

Neznam, šta če Katarci sa ovoliko avijacije.

F16 za Slovake mi djeluje dosta skupo. Znam, tu je i naoružanje i dosta toga ali svejedno. F16 je več dosta prevaziđen avijon. Dobro, ima AESA za 30 godina biče to
stvarno pravaziđen avijon.
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« Reply #526 on: April 06, 2018, 03:20:20 pm »

Наравно да је скупо. Грипен је далеко повољнији. Ово није продаја већ рекет.
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« Reply #527 on: April 06, 2018, 04:17:36 pm »

Pa to ti dođje kao nova američka era Roll Eyes. Kupuje se mir, kupuju se ulaznice u društvo imućnih. Kuvajtski je posao stvarno jeftin ali ako se uzme u obzir, da već imaju Hornete, tada je to lakše razumeti. Otprilike znaći, da se kupuju samo avioni, sve ostalo sledi... i tamo lepo stoji da ima potenciala do 10,1 miljarde dolara, a to bi znaćilo i do 360 miljona po komadu. MIslim, da smo već pisali, kako se cene u totalu za borbene avione protežu od 150 do 250 miljona dolara. Kad već trenažer M-346 stoji maltene 30 miljona dolara...
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« Reply #528 on: April 06, 2018, 11:43:32 pm »

Ne zaboravite da ameri dele zastarelo oružje svojim vernim kupcima i članovima NATO. Prema nekim procenama SAD je poklonila Hrvatskoj oružja  u vrednosti od preko 200 miliona dolara u zadnjih desetak godina. To nije mala stvar i sigurno je imala uticaj da se ide na F-16. Za slovake ne znam koliko i da li dobijaju pomoć ali i kod njih će takva evenntualnost uticati na izbor aviona. To je glavni problem Šveđana.
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« Reply #529 on: April 28, 2018, 11:24:45 am »

Amerika ne želi da proda Turskoj F-35
27.04.2018.

Grupa američkih senatora, koju čine i republikanci i demokrate, želi da blokira isporuke najnovijih lovaca F-35 Turskoj, javlja Rojters.

Povod za to je hapšenje američkog pastora Endrjua Brensona u Turskoj. Kako se navodi Ankara planira da kupi 116 lovaca F-35. Međutim, prema mišljenju senatora Džejmsa Lenkforda, predsednik Turske Redžep Tajip Erdogan „ne poštuje vladavinu zakona“ i „suviše je rizično“ isporučiti mu osetljivu tehnologiju. Političar je dodao da su neke strateške odluke Turske u poslednje vreme „protiv interesa SAD". „Osim toga, turske vlasti nastavljaju sve više da se zbližavaju sa Rusijom, dok u zatvoru drže američkog pastora kako bi ga iskoristili kao piona u političkim pregovorima“, dodao je Lenkford. Juče je direktor Federalne službe za vojnotehničku saradnju Rusije Dmitrij Šugajev izjavio je da postoji minimalan rizik da Turska preproda najnovije ruske komplekse S-400 trećoj zemlji, uključujući neku od država NATO-a.

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« Reply #530 on: May 08, 2018, 05:48:17 am »

Jevrejska i grčka zajednica u SAD blokiraju prodaju "F-35" Turskoj
Srna , s  08.05.2018.

Jevrejska i grčka zajednica u SAD prokušavaju da promovišu zakon koji će da ojača Kipar kao bezbednosnu bazu Zapada i blokirati prodaju avionu "F-35" Turskoj, rekao je direktor Grčko-američkog saveta (HALC) Endi Zemenides.

"Taj zakon bi uklonio prepreke koje sprečavaju da se Kipar još više učvrsti kao država koja predstavlja prvu liniju odbrane za bezbednosne interese Zapada i sprečio Tursku da svojom nepopustljivošću u odnosu na problem Kipra drži američko-kiparske odnose kao taoca", rekao je Zemenides listu "Katimerini". Osim toga, dve zajednice nastaviće da se zalažu za restrikciju prodaje aviona "F-35" Ankari "dok Turska ne počne da se ponaša odgovorno", rekao je Zemenides. Ovaj potez je u skladu sa inicijativom "Okončati Zakon o embargu na oružje Kipru", koju je 13. aprila pokrenulo nekoliko kongresmena Predstavničkog doma i čiji je cilj ukloniti zabranu slanja oružja Kipru.

Kongresmeni su rekli da je Kipar strateški partner SAD od vitalnog značaja i član koalicije koja se bori protiv "Islamske države", navodi "Sputnjik". U svetlu eskalacije tenzija između Turske i Kipra i SAD američki Predstavnički dom objavio je u petak, 4. maja godišnju odbrambenu politiku koja predviđa meru privremenog prekida prodaje oružja Turskoj. Kipar je podeljen od 1974. godine nakon što je turska vojska izvršila invaziju na severni deo ostrva i proglasila Tursku Republiku Severni Kipar. Američki embargo na oružje, kojim je zabranjen izvoz oružja "bilo kojoj oružanoj strani na Kipru" na snazi je od decembra 1992. godine.

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« Reply #531 on: May 08, 2018, 08:54:05 pm »

Filipinci dobili prva 4 od 8 naručenih helikoptera PZL W-3 Sokol.



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AIR FORCE CITY, Clark, Philippines—The Philippine Air Force on Friday received four of eight Polish multi-role helicopters worth about $66 million as part of a modernization program for one of Asia’s most poorly-equipped armed forces.
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« Reply #532 on: May 13, 2018, 03:38:06 pm »

Filipinci dobili prva 4 od 8 naručenih helikoptera PZL W-3 Sokol.



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AIR FORCE CITY, Clark, Philippines—The Philippine Air Force on Friday received four of eight Polish multi-role helicopters worth about $66 million as part of a modernization program for one of Asia’s most poorly-equipped armed forces.

Није лош овај пољски Соко. Додуше, кад га год погледам видим Ми-2, али нема везе...
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« Reply #533 on: May 13, 2018, 06:29:44 pm »

Kako god, lepo su ga sredili.
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« Reply #534 on: May 15, 2018, 08:21:35 am »

Finska traži ponudu za nove borbene avione kojima bi zamenila postojeću flotu od 64 letelice Boing F/A-18C/D koji treba da ostanu u naoružanju do kraja 2025. godine. Sam posao je vredan 10 Mld.$ od kojih 30% mora da se vrati državi kroz razne ofset programe. Na ponudu su se već javili standardni ponuđači sa svojim proizvodima F/A-18E/F, F-35A, Gripen E, Rafale i Typhoon.

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Finland seeks bids for €10bn fighter jet purchase
24.04.2018.

A massive investment in new warplanes must be made in the next few years – but a possible announcement about a new joint venture option at this week’s Berlin Air Show could complicate Finland’s decision.

Finnish officials are about to send out requests for bids for one of the country’s biggest investments ever: some 7-10 billion euros to buy multi-role fighter aircraft. They are to replace the current ageing fleet of 64 F/A-18 Hornet jets.

Yle has learned that letters will be sent imminently to five airplane manufacturers asking for bids. It will be up to the next government, set to take office next spring, to decide which type of aircraft to procure.

The five planes now in the running include three from EU companies and two from the United States: the British-made Eurofighter Typhoon, France’s Dassault Rafale, Sweden’s Saab Gripen E and the US planes Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet and Lockheed Martin F-35.

The selection also includes many other elements, including assembly, interoperability, operating systems and weapons. And the impact will reach far into the future, as Finland hopes to use the new planes into the 2050s.

Sticker price only 1/3 of total investment

The purchase price of 7-10 billion euros will probably only represent about one third of the overall costs to be incurred during the airplanes’ lifetime. The cost of buying, maintaining and upgrading the aircraft will depend partly on how many of Finland’s allies and neighbours are using the same model.

"The more users there are, the more opportunities there are to find other countries with interests similar to those of Finland,” says Jyri Raitasalo, Military Professor of War Studies at the Finnish National Defence University.

The security policy stand of the other nations using the same plane is also a relevant question, particularly for the politicians who are setting Finland’s policy and will decide on the procurement in the early 2020s.

Trump erroneously announced Hornet buy

Yle has learned that Finnish defence officials have been closely monitoring the progress of the Gripen E, made by neighbouring Sweden – a close ally which, like Finland, has an ‘enhanced membership’ in NATO’s Partnership for Peace programme.

The latest version of the plane, known as the Gripen JAS 39E/F, was first tested last year. So far fewer than 100 of the planes have been sold, only to Sweden and Brazil.

In comparison, the American planes are sold in vast numbers and are assured of a long future. For instance the US Navy plans to fly Boeing’s Super Hornets into the 2040s, so service and support for the planes will not be phased out anytime soon.

Rival Lockheed Martin, meanwhile, has sold fewer than 300 of its F-35, but many orders for the plane are pending – including from European countries including neighbouring Norway.

During the Cold War years, non-aligned Finland sought to carefully balance military procurements from the East and West, but since the fall of the USSR, it has had a freer hand.

In 1992, Finland decided to buy Boeing Hornets and has been flying them since 1995, the year it joined the EU. So clearly they would be strong contenders to replace the existing fleet.

However last August President Sauli Niinistö hastened to deny a claim by US President Donald Trump that Finland would buy new Boeing fighter jets.

New Eurofighter on the horizon?

Meanwhile the fighter jet sector may be shaken up by France and Germany’s plans to team up to produce a new type of Eurofighter jet. So far there is only a political plan, not an actual industrial venture.

Yle has learned from French sources that the two countries plan to make a major joint announcement about military aviation at the Berlin Air Show, which opens on Wednesday.

French reports indicate it could replace both the Rafale and the current Eurofighter. However no new French-German Eurofighter is expected before 2035. Therefore it is unclear how the plan might affect Finland, which needs new aircraft by the middle of the next decade, says Raitasalo. There are also reports that Sweden’s Saab might join a new Eurofighter project.

All the candidate planes are now at the same starting line, says Lauri Puranen, who is coordinating the project at the Defence Ministry. He says it is important that other countries besides Finland will be using the planes through their entire lifespan.

"It is difficult to say, for instance, whether this European venture will bring uncertainty,” Puranen says.

Source: www.yle.fi
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« Reply #535 on: May 15, 2018, 12:36:13 pm »

Ne mogu da  vjerujem da im je Boing F/A-18C/D vec za zamjene?!
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« Reply #536 on: May 15, 2018, 03:36:34 pm »

Ne mogu da  vjerujem da im je Boing F/A-18C/D vec za zamjene?!

Зар то нису амерички авиони који, као што знамо, могу да лете деценијама... (па их мало погледају, па опет деценијама)?!
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« Reply #537 on: May 15, 2018, 08:11:15 pm »

Jbg, 2025 će napuniti okruglo 30 leta. osim toga zamena za nove je dobar biznis. Wink
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« Reply #538 on: May 15, 2018, 08:16:57 pm »

30 ? još su tu mladi avioni, šta znaju oni kako se tehnika koristi Smiley
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« Reply #539 on: May 21, 2018, 05:58:17 pm »

Финска... има се може се....Није то Балкан где се набавка старих авиона проглашава за посао века.
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