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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2010, 06:41:42 pm »

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Ne zaboravi na M84 haubicu 152 mm NORA...

A da stvar mal o"zabiberimo", sa istim slovima/brojima postoji još i
M48 puška
M48  brdski top...

A ni USA nisu bolji.. Samo ime M1 imaju za:

    * M1 Abrams,  tank
    * M1 bajonet za M1 Garand pušku
    * M1 karabin
    * M1 kemična mina
    * M1 oklopno vozilo
    * M1 Garand, puška
    * M1 Šlem
    * M1 minobacač
    * M1 ručni bacač raketa
    * M1 Thompson automat
    * M1 120 mm PA top
    * M1 Benelli M1 Super 90, poluautomatska sačmarica
  itd itd..


A poznaju i oznaku M3... Wink

Weapons

    * 37 mm Gun M3, a light American anti-tank gun
    * 105 mm Howitzer M3, an American light artillery piece
    * Benelli M3 Super 90, an Italian semi-automatic shotgun
    * M3 Fighting Knife a World War II American issue knife
    * M3 submachine gun, an American submachine gun
    * M3, a code name for a United States military mission at Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Puerto Rico
    * M3 20mm cannon, a United States development of the Hispano-Suiza HS.404

Vehicles

    * M3 Amphibious Rig, a German self-propelled amphibious bridging vehicle
    * M3 Bradley, an American infantry fighting vehicle
    * M3 Grant, a medium tank that was a variant of the M3 Lee
    * M3 Half-track, an armored military vehicle
    * M3 Lee, an American medium tank
    * M3 Scout Car, an American armored vehicle
    * M3 Stuart, an American light tank

Accessory

    * M3 tripod, A modern tripod for the M2 Browning Machine Gun




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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2010, 02:38:08 pm »

I ako je rad na novom ruskom tenku T-95 trenutno u zastoju, ne radi se ništa, ipak evo par slika novog ruskog tenka.

Šema sa opisom (ako neko zna ruski ne bi bilo loše da nas malo uputi u šemu):

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Kao i nekoliko slika samog tenka:

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Samo meni ni dan danas nije potpuno jasno da li je tenk T-95 unapređenje tenka T-90S ili zapravo nastavak rada na tenku "Objekt 640" Crni Orao, ili pak nešto između toga.
Ja mislim da je najverovatnije ovo treće. Nešto između, znači rešenja sa tenka Crni Orao koja su primenjena na tenku T-90S.
Mada za pouzdanije informacije ćemo sasvim sigurno sačekati još nekoliko godina.

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2010, 05:13:09 pm »

Brokeru, ako ti sta znaci, evo ti nesto sto sam skinuo nekad s neta, neko je iscitao dosta toga, i napravio rezime, vidjeces da se mnoge ideje preplicu:
Soviet Armour Projects of the 1980s
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Main Battle Tanks
Object 195 "T-95"
Developer: Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) at Nizny Tagil
Weight: 50 tons
Height: 1800 mm
Crew: 3
Engine: 1500 hp Diesel/2000 hp gas turbine
Maximum Road Speed: 100 km/h
Maximum Off-road Speed: 50 km/h
Ground Pressure: 0.9 kg/m2
Main Gun: 152 mm
Ammunition: 36 rounds
Auxiliary Armament: 7.62 mm
Self-Protection Systems: Shtora-1, Drodz-2/Arena
Armour: Relikt
Stage: Trials
Development of the Object 195 next generation MBT began in 1988-1989 by a team led by V. Potkin. It represents the "high-end" component, with Object 640 being the "middle-end" component of future Soviet tanks. It was originally planned to be ready in 1994. However, the collapse of the USSR considerably slowed down development, and prototype tests began only in 1997. Several prototypes have been constructed, and the tank is now planned for production in 2007.
The three-man crew is seated in an armoured capsule inside the hull of the tank. This arrangement with an unmanned turret improves crew safety and allows reducing the height of the vehicle. A fourth crew member is located in the battalion support company. The crew can enter the tank from the back. The tank features an automatic self-diagnosis system. Outside view is provided by three sets of periscopes in front hull and three optical sensors on top of the turret. The fire-control system includes optical, imaging infrared and radar channels and a laser rangefinder. An IFF system is also included. Ammo is carried in the turret bustle and loaded by a new type of autoloader. The completely new rear mounted X-shaped Diesel engine delivers 1500 hp to a new transmission system. An unique drive train suspension system helps improve ride smoothness and the noise levels are lower than on previous Russian tanks. Measures for signature reduction (LO) have been incorporated into the design of the tank.
The Relikt defense suite is five times more effective than Kaktus. It detonates on command before the round hits based on information from radar. It can be installed on T-72B and T-90 tanks and is being tested in the Leningrad Military District.
Object 230
Developer: OAO "Spetzmash" at Leningrad
Weight: 50 tons
Height: 2000 mm
Crew: 2
Engine: 1800 hp gas turbine
Maximum Road Speed: 95 km/h
Maximum Off-road Speed: 60 km/h
Main Gun: 152 mm
Stage: Chassis tested in 1992
The crew of two is seated in a capsule in the middle of the hull, with supplies and lavatory for 72 hours of combat operations. The sighting system includes periscopes and optical sensors, imaging infrared sight, and a laser range finder. Each crew member has three LCD displays in front of him. The engine is mounted in the front of the vehicle and the suspension is hydropneumatic. The base chassis can be used for self-propelled artillery, anti-tank missile launcher, reconnaissance, re-supply, and unmanned combat vehicles. The Ladoga reconnaissance and command and control vehicle based on the same chassis is in limited production. Chief designer N.S. Popov.
Object 477 "Molot"
Developer: Kharkov KB at Kharkov
Weight: 50 tons
Crew: 3
Engine: 1500 hp Diesel 6TD
Maximum Road Speed: 75 km/h
Maximum Off-road Speed: 50 km/h
Ground Pressure: 0.8 kg/m2
Main Gun: 152 mm 2A83
Ammunition: 34 rounds
Auxiliary Armament: 7.62 mm
Self-Protection Systems: Shtora-1, Arena
Stage: Trials
Design work of the Object 477 next generation MBT with an unmanned turret began in 1981. Draft design was completed in 1984, technical design in 1985, and the first prototype (mock-up) was constructed in 1987. The vehicles were handed over to Russia, where trials continued through the 1990s. The Argus sight combines LLTV and imaging infrared channels, and a radar system is located on top of the turret. The crew is seated in the hull of the tank. The 152 mm gun with an autoloader can reach a rate of fire of 14 shots per minute. The basic loading module contains 10 rounds, and it can be supplemented by two 12 round modules. The Object 477 represents what was known as FST-2 in the West during the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Object 640 "Black Eagle"
Developer: Design Bureau of Transport Machine-building (Transmash) at Omsk
Weight: 48 tons
Crew: 3
Engine: 1200 hp Diesel/1500 hp gas turbine
Maximum Road Speed: 75 km/h
Maximum Off-road Speed: 50 km/h
Ground Pressure: 0.9 kg/m2
Main Gun: 125 mm 2A46M/152 mm
Ammunition: 40 rounds
Auxiliary Armament: 7.62 mm coaxial, 12.7 mm Kord AA
Self-Protection Systems: Shtora-1, Drodz-2
Armour: Kaktus
Stage: Prototype
The Object 640 is being developed by a team led by Alexander Morozov. It was first unveiled in September 1997 at Omsk. The turret and gun of the first prototype that had been completed in 1994 were shrouded with camouflage netting. The vehicle was based on a T-80UM chassis with 6 road wheels and a mock-up of the turret. The second prototype completed in 1998 used a new chassis with 7 road wheels and had a 125 mm gun. It was unveiled in 1999, also at Omsk.
The driver is seated in the hull to the rear of the entry hatch, the commander and gunner being seated in the turret. The gunner has an optical sight and a laser rangefinder and the commander a panoramic thermal imaging sight. The front 120 degrees of the turret are protected by reactive armour. The turret bustle is a detachable Transport-Loading Module (TZM) that contains the horizontally stored ammunition and is separated from the crew by an armoured bulkhead. It can be replaced by a transloader without the crew having to exit the tank. Rate of fire is 10-12 rounds per minute. The hydropneumatic suspension is similar to the T-80UM, but the tracks are slightly wider. The "Black Eagle" is planned only for export. A new turret based on the Object 640 design is offered as an upgrade to older tanks.
Main sources:
Tanknet Forums
ACIG Forums
btvt.narod.ru
Vasiliy Fofanov's Modern Russian Armour Page
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2010, 06:09:17 pm »

Kako da me ne zanima.

Za "Objekt 447" sam našao jedan prikaz na Internetu

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ali za "Objekt 230" baš ništa.
Imaš li nešto, barem grubu skicu.

Jel ovi podaci su jako zanimljivi i impresivni.

Ona se može instalirati na T-72B i T-90 tenkova i da se testira u Lenjingradu vojna oblast.

Objekat 230
Razvojni tim:OAO "Spetzmash" u Lenjingradu
Težina:50 tona
Visina:2000 mm
Posada:2
Motor:1800 ks gasne turbine
Maksimalna brzina na putu:95 km / h
Maksimalni Off-road vetra:60 km / h
Glavni gan:152 mm
Faza:Šasija testiran 1992

Posada je dve sa sedištem u kapsulu u sredini trupa, sa zalihama i toalet za 72 sata borbenih operacija. Posmatranje sistem uključuje periscopes i optičkih senzora, slike infracrveni nišan, i laserski daljinomer. Svaki član posade ima tri LCD ekrane ispred njega. Motor se montira na prednjem delu vozila i suspenzija je hidropneumatic. Baza šasije može da se koristi za samohodne artiljerije, protiv-tenkovske rakete bacač, izviđanje, ponovo napajanje i bespilotne borbenih vozila. Ladoga izviđanje i za komandu i kontrolu vozila na osnovu istoj šasiji je ograničena proizvodnja. Glavni projektant N.S. Popov.

Meni uopšte nisu jasne ove njihove oznake. Izgleda da one imaju prevashodno za cilj da zbune nas strance. Smiley

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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2010, 06:31:51 pm »

Kontam kakvo će biti veselja kod bočnog opaljenja ( kad je cijev na 90 stepeni od pravca kretanja) kod Objekta 447, kod konvencionalnih riješenja vozču je bilo malo neugodano, a sa ovim konceptom biće i kompletnoj posadi
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2010, 06:48:14 pm »

Pa prema kalibru valjda će ići i jači, snažniji, moćniji sistem za anti trzaj.
Vozaču to je uvek nezgodno, i na 125 mm kalibru je to iskustvo vozaču prilično neprijatno, ali iskusnom vozaču to ne predstavlja problem, jel zna šta odnosno odakle može očekivati trzaj.

Druga stvar je da su iskutsva pokazala da se 80 posto ako ne i više dejstvuje kada je kupola u gabaritu tenka.

Treće, ako posada nije smeštena u kupoli kao što je do sada bio slučaj neće ni njima biti ništa bolje. Mada je pitanje da li će ovaj koncept uopšte da zaživi. Dosta su to radikalni zahvati.

Četvrto, i pored ovih impresivnih cifri kalibra topa mislim da Rusi neće u narednih 10-15 godina menjati kalibar. Moje mišljenje je da će sve to ostati u kalibru 125 mm.
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2010, 03:57:35 pm »

Ovo si vjerovatno i sam nasao, ali evo nekoliko korisnih linkova:
http://btvt.narod.ru/3/640/640.htm
http://btvt.narod.ru/3/3.html
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/history/_all.gif
ovo je bas dobra stvar, daljim istrazivanjem bi se moglo stosta naci:
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/history/_45_2006.htm
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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2010, 04:34:24 pm »

Jesam i ima na Palubi tih šema, mada tačno gde ne znam.

Ako bude šta novo oko T-95 ili modernizacije T-90, javljaj brzom brzinom. Wink
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2010, 10:26:33 pm »

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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2010, 09:09:52 am »

Ovo mi liči na položaj zrna i punjenja u nosaču u trenutku punjenja topa ili popune obrtnog transportera kod automatskog punjenja topa. Kod tenkova gdje se punjenje topa vrši iz jednog poteza automatskog punjača zrno i punjenje su učvršeni u spoj preko jedne kopče koja se stavlja na njihov zajednički držač, 6 i 21 na ovoj slici, u toku popune obrtnog transportera. Na tom mjestu se i ovaj spoj zrna i punjenja "lomi" kod spuštanja u transporter. Zrno ide u pod i stoji horizontalno, a punjenje se spušta i ostaje vertikalno dnom čaure prema gore. Kod opaljenja dance se vraća na mjesto na kojem je bilo prije popune topa. Kasnije se ručno izbacuje kod sljedeće popune transportera ili čišćenja tenka. Ovo je dobro jer nema otvaranja poklopca za izbacivanje danca, kojeg i nema kod ovog tenka. Ovaj tenk može da gađa kod ABHO opasnosti jer se ne narušava zaptivenost tenka, a koja bi se narušila otvaranjem poklopca za izbacivanje danceta.

Na ovoj slici su prikazana dva potkalibarna i jedno kumulativno zrno. Ne znam zašto nisu i ostala. Već sam negdje napisao da sam vidio njihov balistički računar na kojem ima sedam vrsta potkalibarnih zrna. Nije mi jasna tolika potreba za različitim potkalibarnim zrnima izuzev ako ih ne prave različite fabrike, pa se po nekom ključu moraju sve koristiti. Sva potkalibarna zrna imaju veoma veliku brzinu, od 1800 do 2100 m/s, tako da lete gotovo pravolinijski i tu im baš i ne treba neki balistički računar. Na našem tenku na 1500 m daljine (nominalni) korigovani tablični ugao je 2,7 hiljaditih.

Vidim da je slika prebačena sa linka u atašment. Bilo bi dobro da ostane i link da vidim šta još ima na tom sajtu prema kojem je link. Možda ima nešto interesantno.

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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2010, 11:33:56 am »

Već sam negdje napisao da sam vidio njihov balistički računar na kojem ima sedam vrsta potkalibarnih zrna. Nije mi jasna tolika potreba za različitim potkalibarnim zrnima izuzev ako ih ne prave različite fabrike, pa se po nekom ključu moraju sve koristiti. Sva potkalibarna zrna imaju veoma veliku brzinu, od 1800 do 2100 m/s, tako da lete gotovo pravolinijski i tu im baš i ne treba neki balistički računar. Na našem tenku na 1500 m daljine (nominalni) korigovani tablični ugao je 2,7 hiljaditih.
Владо,

Код Андреја на сајту има део о совјетским/руским поткалибарним зрнима за топ од 125мм.
http://www.btvt.narod.ru/4/bps.htm

Од 1962. па до данас су увели у наоружање укупно 11 врста поткалибарних зрна!
Разлог се види из табеле на стране, стално је побољшавана пробојност.

Брзина ових зрна варира од 1650 па до 1800 м/с, па верујем да има разлике у балистици.
Осим тога, има разлике и у дужини зрна, не знам да ли то утиче на метод пуњења.

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Оно што је занимљиво на илустрацији коју је дао Андреј је да поткалибарна зрна не личе на ова која су већ уведена у наоружање.
На другој слици се налази поткалибарно зрно које је прилично дугачко. Вероватно је ново зрно веће пробојности, које није могло да се користи на старим аутоматским пуњачима због дужине.
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2010, 03:24:18 pm »

Evo ako ce vam sto pomoci, malo detaljnija slika "black eagle" iz ruskog casopisa

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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2010, 04:44:44 pm »

Sta bi ovo bilo..?



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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2010, 07:25:44 pm »

BMT 72
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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2010, 07:28:20 pm »

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