Small Royal Yugoslav Boats

[Dili]

http://www.gdf.it/Organizzazione/Specializzazioni/Servizio_Aeronavale/La_Storia/Il_naviglio_dei_finanzieri_nella_storia/info78572035.html

In the bottom of the page  it makes reference to a small ex.Yugoslav boat class. Is the information there correct, including the picture which from distance it appears to be too modernized for 1922 production?

[jadran2]

Such boats class GL309 (stated as Yugoslav boats for finance service) - seems were not part of Yugoslav financial service boats.

Also, those were also never specified to be taken by Italians. (?)
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Maybe, some other information exists.

[MOTORISTA]

Actualy, in Yugoslav Naval Almanach IV/1991, is stated that Italians not only took warships, but also all ships of Direction of Maritime Traffic ( Direkcija Pomorskog Saobraćaja) 14 ships, Ministry of finance ( Ministarstvo Finansija) 12 ships, Administration of State Monopolies ( Uprava Državnog Monopola) 2 ships, Emigrant fund of the Ministry of Social Policy and Public Health ( Iseljenički Fond Ministarstva Socialne Politike i Narodnog Zdravlja) 1 ship, Ministry of Traffic ( Ministarstvo Saobraćaja) 1 ship, Ministry of Commerce ( Ministarstvo Trgovine) 1 ship, County Government Offices ( Ispostava Banske Vlasti) 1 ship. They also took 4 dredger`s and 10 barges of Direction of Maritime Traffic.

Here is the list. ( name, tonnage, engine power, year of build)

Direction of Maritime Traffic:

1. Bojana, 42 t, 140 HP, 1899
2. Klis, 231 t, 150 HP, 1899
3. Konjic, 41 t, 100 HP, 1936
4. Lasta, 13 t, 22 HP, ?
5. M.Č.1, 13 t, 22 HP, 1910
6. M.Č.2, 13 t, 22 HP, 1910
7. M.Č.3, 13 t, 22 HP, 1910
8. Marjan, 1 t, 16 HP, 1912
9. Neretva, 94,22 t, 392 HP, 1904
10. Orjen, 91,39 t, 350 HP, 1908
11. Plavnik, 213 t, 450 HP, 1910
12. Solin, 51 t, 80 HP, 1910
13. Uskok, 40 t, 110 HP, 1910
14. Vesna, 10 t, 30 HP, 1910
15. No1 dreger, 60 HP, 1895
16. No2 dreger, 100 HP, 1902
17. No3 dreger, 15 HP, 1905
18. No4 dreger, 400 HP, 1931
19. No1 barge, ?
20. No2 barge, 1927
21. No3 barge, 1936
22. No4 barge, 1928
23. No5 barge, 1928
24. No6 barge, 1928
25. No7 barge, 1928
26. No8 barge, 1929
27. No9 barge, 1929
28. No10 barge, 1911

Ministry of finance:

1. Neznani Junak, 36t, 120 HP, 1923
2. Senjanin Ivo, ?, 120 HP, ?
3. Vuk Mandušić, 70 t, 120 HP, 1924
4. Miloš Obilić, 70 t, 120 HP, 1924
5. Kraljević Marko, 36 t, 120 HP, 1923
6. Jug Bogdan, 70 t, 120 HP, 1924
7. Oplenac, 142 t, ?, 1898
8. Cer, 128 t, ?, 1894
9. Velebit, ?
10. Orijen, ?
11. Alem, 7 t, 32 HP, 1914
12. Jadro, 1 t, 12 HP, ?

Administration of State Monopolies:

1. Lahor II, 6 t, 120 HP, 1929
2. Vihor, 6 t, 90 HP, 1926

Emigrant fund of the Ministry of Social Policy and Public Health:

1. Mornar, 169 t, 200 HP, 1882

Ministry of Traffic:

1. Nada, 1 t, 33 HP, 1928

Ministry of Commerce:

1. Vila Velebita, 257 t, 300 HP, 1908

County Government Offices:

1. Zvijezda, 5 t, 14 HP, 1918

Your wright about picture, ship on her is defenetly too modern for 1922 production.

[Dili]

I have this list about naming in Italy and the nomenklature, they seem to be modified for anti submarine work.

AS66 Mazzei ex jug. Velebit (1922/40t)   
AS67 Cappelletti ex jug. Mosor (1922/40t)   
AS68 Feroldi ex jug. Kraljevic Marko (1922/40t)   
AS69 Fais ex jug. Jug Bogdan (1922/40t)   
AS70 Attanasi ex jug. Vuk Mandusic (1922/40t)   
AS71 Meattini ex jug. Junac Neznani (1922/40t)    
AS72 Salerno ex jug. Sanjanin Ivo (1922/40t)   
AS73 Accordi ex jug. Dbelic Milos (1922/40t)

I have conflicting information for example about Mosor and Velebit i have also this "76 t, 17 kts, built at Split in 1939/40, launched od 15 and 17 June 1939 respectively), and were captured by the Italians in April of 1941. MOSOR was renamed CAPPELLETTI (AS-67) and VELEBIT became MAZZEI (AS-66). Both were used as anti-submarine vessels with Financial Guard crews (Guardia di Finanza)HAJDUK VELJKO-Mosor/VOJVODA HRVOJE-Velebit"

I have found the original place of the quoteand with a photo of construction:http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=134803&start=0

According to the Yugoslav "Pomorska enciklopedija" ("Maritime Encyclopaedia"), MOSOR and VELEBIT of the Pomorska financijska kontrola (Maritime Financial Guard) were former HAJDUK VELJKO and VOJVODA HRVOJE (76 t, 17 kts, built at Split in 1939/40, launched od 15 and 17 June 1939 respectively), and were captured by the Italians in April of 1941. MOSOR was renamed CAPPELLETTI (AS-67) and VELEBIT became MAZZEI (AS-66). Both were used as anti-submarine vessels with Financial Guard crews (Guardia di Finanza). MAZZEI (ex-VELEBIT alias VOJVODA HRVOJE) was restitued to the Royal Yugoslav Navy (RYN) in exile on Malta on 7 December 1943. Her sister-ship remained in Italy and was scrapped after the war.

So the 40t 1922 appears wrong.

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[brodarski]

One of the financial guard boat.

[MOTORISTA]

Brodarski, wich one is this?

[brodarski]

Looks like MČ built 1939. L 16 m, 120 HP Diesel, 11 knots.

[brodarski]

Financial guard boat

[Dili]

A friend have given me this bad photo while in Italian hands.

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[Dreadnought]

And here it is ...  Motor boat of finance service "Mosor" (later AS67 Cappelletti)  

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[Dili]

Excellent 

[jadran2]

Coming back on vessels and boats ordered by Ministry of Finance, - brief resume -  according to the Shipyard Split official data, there were two classes :

1. Patrol vessels "Velebit" and "Mosor", shipyard number 28 and 29, each of 123 GRT, 29 m, 2 x Diesel M.A.N. engines of 560 HP each, 17 knots, handed over to the Owner in July 1940.

2. Patrol boats (10 in total), shipyard numbers 31-40, 16 m, Diesel engine of 120 HP, 11 knots, handed over to Ministry during 1939/1940.

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[crolick]

Hello Gentleman,

I'm a new member from Poland and if I may I would like to ask one question regarding Yugoslavian vessel from WWII:
- on 13 IX 43 Polish submarine SOKOL rammed Italian motorboat MEATTINI. As far as I know this was former Yugoslavian JUNAC NEZNANI. I'm looking for any details and pictures of this vessel. For example what is the proper name of the vessel - JUNAC NEZNANI or NEZNANI JUNAK?? And what was the role of this vessel under Yugoslavian banner?


All the best from Warszawa,
Andrzej

[MOTORISTA]

Hello Andrzej.

The boat name was Neznani Junak. It belonged to ministry of finance, and his role was to prevent smuggling.

As for the boat image, you'll have to wait a little bit.

[crolick]

Hello Andrzej.

The boat name was Neznani Junak. It belonged to ministry of finance, and his role was to prevent smuggling.

As for the boat image, you'll have to wait a little bit.

Hello Motorista,

thank you for your quick reply - I can wait a little bit. No problem with that

Does NEZNANI JUNAK means anything?


Have a nice day,
Andrzej