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« Reply #1245 on: April 02, 2021, 09:09:53 am » |
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Imao sam nekoliko komada ovakvih ali sam vremenom podelio. Znači nije jedna slučajno ubačena od, recimo projektora već sam nalazio više njih i davao sam onima kojima je nedostajala ili za zamenu. Skoro šesnaest godina ne radim T-55 pa sam neke stvari zaboravio...
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« Reply #1246 on: April 02, 2021, 09:22:00 am » |
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Imao sam nekoliko komada ovakvih ali sam vremenom podelio. Znači nije jedna slučajno ubačena od, recimo projektora već sam nalazio više njih i davao sam onima kojima je nedostajala ili za zamenu. Skoro šesnaest godina ne radim T-55 pa sam neke stvari zaboravio...
Ja, eto, tražim knjigu za tenk T-55, jer verujem da je i taj podatak negde u knjizi.
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« Reply #1247 on: April 02, 2021, 10:08:06 am » |
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Ja, eto, tražim knjigu za tenk T-55, jer verujem da je i taj podatak negde u knjizi.
На руском има доста књига које се могу преузети овде
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« Reply #1248 on: April 21, 2021, 08:47:19 pm » |
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Hello. Does anyone know the reason for the distance between the wheels of the first and second road?
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« Reply #1249 on: April 21, 2021, 11:13:45 pm » |
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Reason for different spacing lies in positioning of torsion bars in the floor of the vehicle. Every road wheel has its own torsion bar, so there can`t be two bars in same space through width of tank.
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« Reply #1250 on: April 22, 2021, 12:00:13 am » |
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Kumbor, mislim da nije to u pitanju. Nego ravnomerna raspodela tezine vozila. Na primer, T-62 ima razmak pozadi tenka zato sto je napred tezi. A ZSU-57-2 ima jedan tocak manje sa svake strane posto je mnogo laksi.
Space is there because of weight distribution, to equality distribute ground pressure along the track. For example T-62 has space towards rear of the vehicle because it is front heavy, on the other hand ZSU-57-2 has a pair of wheels removed because it's much lighter vehicle.
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« Reply #1251 on: April 22, 2021, 04:22:13 am » |
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Could this distance be related to the fact that this tank does not have small spinning wheels?
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« Reply #1252 on: April 22, 2021, 09:48:07 am » |
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Kumbor, mislim da nije to u pitanju. Nego ravnomerna raspodela tezine vozila. Na primer, T-62 ima razmak pozadi tenka zato sto je napred tezi. A ZSU-57-2 ima jedan tocak manje sa svake strane posto je mnogo laksi.
Space is there because of weight distribution, to equality distribute ground pressure along the track. For example T-62 has space towards rear of the vehicle because it is front heavy, on the other hand ZSU-57-2 has a pair of wheels removed because it's much lighter vehicle.
Obojica ste u pravu. Drugo je pitanje da li su upravo dve torzijske opruge tamo gde je specifična težina tenka najmanja ili je specifična težina namerno napravljena tako da na tom mestu mogu (smeju) da budu dve torzijske opruge, a da se ne naruši nosivost tenka. Ako polazimo od stanovišta da je najpre dizajn zahtevao pet torzionih opruga za pet točkova, onda je bilo jasno, da će negde morati da se poveća razmak među točkovima zato što torziona opruga ne može da bude na kraju.
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« Reply #1253 on: April 22, 2021, 11:03:05 am » |
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Ako gresim neka me neko ispravi, ali T-55 nema uduplane torzione opruge nego jednu po tocku. One samo deluju uduplano zato sto nemogu zauzeti isti prostor pa je jedna strana ispred druge. Sto znaci da gaz gusenica nije simetrican nego u slucaju T-55, desna strana je ispred za duzinu torzionog sklopa. Prva osovina I zadnja osovina, ako je smem tako nazvati, ima dodatna pojacanja ali ta pojacanja su po pravcu kretanja. U slucaju skretanja ili da tenk naidje na prepreku diagonalno, da se nebi savila ruka tocka.
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« Reply #1254 on: April 22, 2021, 11:25:58 am » |
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Could this distance be related to the fact that this tank does not have small spinning wheels?
Small spinning wheels are called return rollers. I doubt it has anything to do with space between first and rest of the wheels. Tanks are heavy vehicles and designers are constantly working on weight managment. They could have made 6 pairs of smaller wheels instead of 5 and have no space between wheels. But that would add unnecessary weight. Extra pair of wheels and all required suspension would increase the weight and take away from the useful space in the tank. Perhaps limiting the amount of armor that tank can have.
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« Reply #1255 on: April 22, 2021, 02:57:45 pm » |
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Во право сте сите зошто имаа простор мегу предното тркало и следното тркало (точкови) но исто така советите сакале во тој дел да стават долна врата за излез на посадата при погодок пред се возачот на верзии на т-44 тенкот подоцна и на првите верзии на т-54 имале такви долни порти на подот за излез и затоа тука се оставил тој простор мегу тркалата со цел да можи да се направи таа врата но подоцна таа идеја кај т-54 и кај т-55 била напуштена.
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« Reply #1256 on: April 22, 2021, 06:28:28 pm » |
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Ponekad je broj torzija stvar cijene tenka i kvaliteta tenka.
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« Reply #1257 on: April 23, 2021, 04:48:11 pm » |
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So it is possible that in Abrams and Merkava tanks, these gaps are for installing the exit valve. But in T72S tank, why were these gaps removed?
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« Reply #1258 on: April 23, 2021, 05:22:46 pm » |
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Merkava doesn't have torsion bar suspension so that can't be the reason.
Abrams does not have escape hatch in the bottom.
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« Reply #1259 on: April 23, 2021, 06:19:30 pm » |
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Долниот излез за посадата кај т-62
The driver's escape hatch t-62
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