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Title: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:07:59 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:10:17 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:12:33 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:14:39 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:16:48 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:19:16 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on December 03, 2010, 07:21:17 pm
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on December 03, 2010, 11:48:46 pm
Na slici 19 je NB-36H, jedan od dve letelice modifikovane da nose nuklearni reaktor snage 1MW, a sve u cilju testiranja mogućnosti nuklearnog pogona za avione. Inače ovaj nuklearni reaktor nikada nije pokretao letelicu.


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: ZuluDelta on March 24, 2011, 10:27:11 pm
U odnosu na bombardere iz 2.svj. rata  :zid

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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on November 16, 2015, 09:31:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGjyH2ulsCk


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on April 01, 2016, 09:51:21 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHSmGOvIO7M


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on September 30, 2016, 11:27:04 am
https://youtu.be/VmG5uTVvS2c


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: kumbor on September 30, 2016, 12:04:21 pm
Pored 6 turbo-kompaund klipnih motora 28 cilindarskih  PW Wasp Major od po 3.500-3.800ks, kasniji avioni su imali i po 4 TMM J-47, kao na Sabreima.


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on December 12, 2017, 08:05:21 pm
https://youtu.be/bK7KvhjQx9k


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: lovac on December 12, 2017, 08:33:03 pm
Vidim, neki modeli ovih grdosija su samo sa 6 klipnih - elisnih motora, a neke verzije imaju i po dva turbomlazna motora na svakom krilu.

Da li su turbomlazni motori dodati samo radi skraćenja poletne piste pri maksimalnom opterećenju, ili su imali funkciju i tokom leta, na velikim udaljenostima?


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on February 25, 2019, 12:36:19 pm
B-36 i, barem se meni tako čini, "parazit lovac" F-102/106.

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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: lovac on February 25, 2019, 05:38:59 pm
Transport ili neka zajednička misija?

Lovac mu dođe kao podrška prilikom izvršavanja zadatka, ali pošto nema dovoljan dolet ''veliki brat'' ga transportuje do mesta okršaja!?  :pilot


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Рашо on February 25, 2019, 10:16:32 pm
B-36 i, barem se meni tako čini, "parazit lovac" F-102/106.

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Ово је под Б-36 окачен Б-58 Хаслер. Један примјерак је био прилагођен за ношење Хаслерових трупова и то, као што се види, са извученим стајним трапом током читавог лета.


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on February 26, 2019, 08:13:17 am
Hvala Rašo.


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: lovac on February 26, 2019, 02:28:01 pm
Један примјерак је био прилагођен за ношење Хаслерових трупова и то, као што се види, са извученим стајним трапом током читавог лета.

Koja je svrha da se hasler prevozi bombarderom?
Da li zbog malog doleta u borbenim misijama, ili iz fabrike u fabriku.

 


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: jugins on February 26, 2019, 11:25:19 pm
Kolko vidim, B-58 nema ugradjene motore. Predpostavka da se transportuje do ... Nije li lakse transportovati motore i ugraditi ih na avion, nego obratno?


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: lEO - ZD on February 27, 2019, 08:50:10 am
Da li je to nešto slično ovome (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3d840dc4b54a7aae7b18045c92785a1e.webp)

Istina F86 je manji, puuno manji


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: lEO - ZD on February 27, 2019, 08:54:23 am
Ipak je prebacivanje na testiranje:

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"A B36 carrying the B58 prototype (minus engines) to Fort Worth for testing in 1957. Inboard props removed from B36 and gear locked down."



Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on March 02, 2019, 09:09:46 am
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Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: MOTORISTA on May 16, 2020, 06:21:42 am
https://youtu.be/l1-urTRxeEM


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Dreadnought on August 07, 2020, 08:00:49 am


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This footage shows a Convair B-36 Peacemaker aircraft making a low pass over Fort Worth, Texas, as the strategic bomber completes what is known as a "buzz job." Recorded by Lt. Col. Frank F. Kleinwechter, Jr., the flight crew was reportedly showing off for a firefighter convention visiting the nearby airbase.

Panicked residents flooded the Wing Headquarters with irate phone calls. Many thought the plane had crashed. Others complained that the B-36 had set fire to a telephone pole and had blown shingles off of their roofs. One man even claimed that his TV antenna had gotten stuck sucked into a jet pod…



https://youtu.be/N3Xt-LeaQeg



Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Dreadnought on September 03, 2020, 01:01:18 pm


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The Convair B-36 "Peacemaker" is a strategic bomber built by Convair and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF) from 1949 to 1959. ... The B-36 was the first bomber capable of delivering any of the nuclear weapons in the U.S. arsenal from inside its four bomb bays without aircraft modifications.



https://youtu.be/5NvnbpJeHrE


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Dreadnought on September 27, 2020, 01:40:42 pm


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The Convair B-36 "Peacemaker" is a strategic bomber built by Convair and operated by the United States Air Force from 1949 to 1959. The B-36 is the largest mass-produced piston-engined aircraft ever built. It had the longest wingspan of any combat aircraft ever built, at 230 ft. The B-36 was the first bomber capable of delivering any of the nuclear weapons in the U.S. arsenal from inside its four bomb bays without aircraft modifications. With a range of 10,000 mi and a maximum payload of 87,200 lb, the B-36 was capable of intercontinental flight without refuelling.

Entering service in 1948, the B-36 was the primary nuclear weapons delivery vehicle of Strategic Air Command until it was replaced by the jet-powered Boeing B-52 Stratofortress beginning in 1955. All but four aircraft have been scrapped.



https://youtu.be/qkGtVMoWdiY



Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: Kubovac on August 13, 2023, 05:38:48 pm
Convair B-36 Peacemaker u Nacionalnom muzeju američkog vazduhoplovstva, Dejton, Ohajo

Odgovarajući na potrebe Vazduhoplovnih snaga SAD za strateškim bombarderom interkontinentalnog dometa, Consolidated Vultee (kasnije Convair) dizajnirao je B-36 tokom Drugog svetskog rata. Avion je svoj prvi let izveo u avgustu 1946. godine, a u junu 1948. godine Strateška vazdušna komanda je primila svoj prvi operativni B-36. Neki B-36 služili su kao fotografski izviđački avioni, a drugi su bili prilagođeni za lansiranje i izvlačenje specijalno modifikovanih izviđačkih aviona RF-84F/K.

Pogonjen sa šest motora Pratt & Vhitnei R-4360, B-36J krstario je brzinom od 230 mph, ali za dodatne veće brzine njegova četiri General Electric J47s povećala su maksimalnu brzinu na 435 mph. Nosio je 86.000 funti nuklearnih ili konvencionalnih bombi. Kada je proizvodnja završena u avgustu 1954. godine, više od 380 B-36 je napravljeno za Vazduhoplovstvo SAD. U periodu 1958-1959, USAF je zamenio B-36 sa potpuno mlaznim B-52. Iako nikada nije korišćen u borbi, B-36 je bio glavno sredstvo odvraćanja od neprijateljske agresije. Izvršavajući poslednji let B-36 ikada, izloženi avion je doleteo u Nacionalni muzej američkog vazduhoplovstva iz vazduhoplovne baze Dejvis-Montan u Arizoni, 30. aprila 1959. godine.

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Izvor (https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/197636/convair-b-36j-peacemaker/)



Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: milan55 on August 14, 2023, 04:45:25 am
Da li je to nešto slično ovome (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3d840dc4b54a7aae7b18045c92785a1e.webp)

Istina F86 je manji, puuno manji



Mislim da to nije F-86 nego Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, objesen kao tzv parazitni lovac za odbranu bombarderske formacije od neprijateljskih lovaca?


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: kumbor on August 14, 2023, 04:54:34 am
Da li je to nešto slično ovome (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3d840dc4b54a7aae7b18045c92785a1e.webp)

Istina F86 je manji, puuno manji



Mislim da to nije F-86 nego Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, objesen kao tzv parazitni lovac za odbranu bombarderske formacije od neprijateljskih lovaca?

Trup i kabina parazitskog lovca jasno pokazuju da je to F-84F.


Title: Re: Convair B-36 Peacemaker - najveći klipni bombarder
Post by: milan55 on August 14, 2023, 05:02:51 am
Kao parazitni lovac najvise je planiran
McDonnell XF-85 Goblin  ali je bilo dosta problema.Prvo su testovi radjeni sa B-29. Postavljanjem nuklearnih reaktora u podmornice i uvodjenjem nuklearnih podmornica sa balistickim raketama tzv. Boomer-a , sistem strateskih bombardera sa nuklearnim bombama gubi na znacaju, pogotovo nakon nekoliko udesa i gubitka bombi. Kodno ime operacije "Broken arrow"


It was intended to deploy from the bomb bay of the giant Convair B-36 bomber as a parasite fighter. The XF-85's intended role was to defend bombers from hostile interceptor aircraft,

McDonnell XF-85 Goblin

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