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« Reply #2000 on: March 22, 2013, 04:40:21 pm »

Mjesto vozača


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« Reply #2001 on: March 27, 2013, 07:21:32 pm »

Obuka pitomaca VA KoV u kabinetu...
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« Reply #2002 on: March 27, 2013, 07:37:09 pm »

Ovaj presek tenka je za T-72, ali pošto su u tom trenutku obrađivali temu "motor i transmisija", to i nije toliko bitno.
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« Reply #2003 on: March 27, 2013, 07:39:55 pm »

To zbog odsustva meteosenzora, jel?
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« Reply #2004 on: March 27, 2013, 07:50:57 pm »

I to, ali mi je prvo zapala za oko dnevna nišanska sprava TPD-K1.
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« Reply #2005 on: March 27, 2013, 08:41:06 pm »

Kad smo već kod ovih nekih učila i presjeka evo malo.

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Kod ove zadnje slike vidi se jedan fin detalj. Spoj paralelograma sa topom. Paralelogram je sklop koji prenosi elevaciju topa na nišansku spravu. Na taj ugao topa se kasnije u nišanskoj spravi dodaju ostali uglovi potrebni za otklon nišanske sprave. Uglavnom negativni uglovi, jer top uvijek mora da ima veću elevaciju od linije nišanjenja koja je ravna do cilja, a zrno iz topa se mora ispaliti tako da pogodi cilj, a na to isto zrno djeluje gravitacija, pa zrno ima tendenciju pada na zemlju, te se top mora malo odignuti od linije nišanjenja. Korigovani tablični ugao plus odskočni ugao tenka.

Dakle, ovaj sivi sklop sa ovim dugmićem pored kojeg prolazi ova plava cijev za vodu za pranje prednjeg stakla nišanske sprave. Taj spoj je i razlika topa na M84 i T72,a o čemu sam već pisao na Palubi.

Dakle, u JNA je bio ovaj trenažer u Banja Luci i iz Banja Luke je prebačen u Pančevo, pa ko sada zna gdje. U Kuvajt je isporučen jedan ili dva presjeka tenka M84, kao ova na slici koju je postavio Rade. Ja sam bio u komisiji za prijem te opreme u luci Bar 1992 godine. Napravljen je u ĐĐ, jedan dio, a drugi dio u remontnom zavodu Bregana, gdje sam takođe bio član komisije za prijem (opet) negdje 1990 godine ili kasnije. Više se ne sjećam.

Trenažer za SUV M84 je bio jedan u Banja Luci i to je prepravljeni trenažer za T72 sa sistemom za upravljanje vatrom sa M84. Elektronika je tu prepravljena jer je manja težina kupole i topa. Ugrađena je elektronika sa jednog tenka iz prototipske partije tenka M84.

U VP 3566 Zagreb, Črnomerec, Tehnički školski centar, bila su dva tenka M84 za obuku. Na jednom tenku sam ja držao nastavu, a drugi tenk je bio u motoraškom dijelu Školskog centra. Po povlačenju JNA iz Školskog centra "zahvaljujući" majoru Zoranu Tintoru, oba tenka su ostala u Školskom centru.





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« Reply #2006 on: March 29, 2013, 04:29:32 pm »

Prototip nišanske spravre za T-55
Slika iz knjige "Oklep na slovenskem" I. Kočevarja
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« Reply #2007 on: March 31, 2013, 07:11:32 am »

Ima još nekih trenažera i presjeka tenka.

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« Reply #2008 on: April 02, 2013, 05:50:21 pm »

Pošto se naveliko na forumu priča o probojnosti oklopa tenka, o zaštitama itd, da postavim nekoliko video klipova o probijanju oklopa.

Oklop se otprilike probija ovako
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ili ovako

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Uništava se struktura maretijala, a penetrator probija oklop ili izgubi energiju u prodiranju.

To se radi sa ovakvim granatama, (presjek)

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ili ovakvim
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Penetrator na APFSDS je obično od volframa, a zrno je ovakvo.

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a sam komadić volframa koji je u "streli" je ovakav.

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A sam penetrator može biti različit.

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« Reply #2009 on: April 02, 2013, 06:03:34 pm »

Rupe na tenku budu otprilke ovakve

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čelik se probija otprilke ovako (boja predstavlja temperaturu)

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a ovo je rupa na oklopu od APFSDS-a sa topa 120 mm

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Ovo je najčešće korišteni potkalibarni

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A kod Rusa se svako sredstvo ispituje na probojnost.

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Kao što se i kod nas na na svakoj seriji M84 dva tenka bušila ovako na poligonu Kindrovo.


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