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« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2008, 10:17:34 pm » |
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Evo, konsultovao sam GoogleEarth, i Gori lezi usred kotline, dok je mesto Mtskheta na savrsenom mestu za odsudnu odbranu Tbilisija, lesi taman na pocetku planinskog masiva, koji ga deli od Tbilisija... Tbilisi je, cini mi se, prirodno dosta zasticen od napada sa severa.
Na NTV Rustavi 2 su se ukljucili u CNN, sa simultanim prevodom... Evo gotove i te vanredne vesti, ponovo se emituje "Troja". Poslao sam SMS jednom Gruzijcu, sa kojim sam radio postdiplomske, cisto da vidim, ima li on neke informacije...
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« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2008, 10:26:01 pm » |
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Gledajte CNN, Bush upravo daje konferenciju za stampu... Prenos je uzivo i na NTV Rustavi2...
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« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2008, 10:35:58 pm » |
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Evo sta Debka.com ima da kaze:
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili, under heavy Russian siege, claimed Monday night, Aug. 11, that the Russians had invaded the country and “cut it in half”. A full-scale retreat of Georgian troops was ordered from the border town of Gori to defend the capital Tbilisi 60 km away. In the event, Moscow denied seizing the town – or any plans for advancing on the Georgian capital - and turned the panic around to ridicule the pro-Western president.
Our sources believe Saakashvili had hoped that word of a Russian invasion of Georgia proper would finally stir the US and Europe into action to save his regime from being trampled by Russian tanks. Moscow had made it obvious that it would only hold its fire after his regime was gone and replaced by a Moscow-friendly administration.
The Russians sustained their three-day aerial bombardment of Gori, even after the town emptied of inhabitants and troops. This kept the rumor of an imminent Russian invasion alive in the world media for as long as necessary.
DEBKAfile’s Moscow sources report that Russian strategists believed that, by pulling the invasion scare carpet from under the president’s feet a few hours later, they could turn his campaign of panic and despair into a boomerang which would topple him without outside aid.
If not, the Russian president, prime minister and military chiefs would put their heads together again as they did on Monday and decide on their next move.
In the meantime, Russian troops entered Georgia Monday unopposed from another direction and captured the town of Senaki, 40 km from the northwestern breakaway province of Abkhazia.
This netted Moscow three advantages:
1. The Georgian outpost in the Kodori Gorge in northern Abkhazia, estimated at 3,000 strong, was cut off from its supply lines.
2. The Russians were in a position to force the outpost’s surrender, inflicting a lethal blow to Georgian military morale. Later Monday, having achieved this objective, the Russian defense ministry announced the withdrawal of its troops from Senaki after “eliminating the threat to south Abkhazia.”
3. The loss of the strategic Kodori Gorge should prove painful enough to deter the Georgian government from persisting in laying claim to Abkhazian territory for many years to come.
Interesantan scenario...
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« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2008, 10:54:08 pm » |
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Ovo postaje, u najmanju ruku - cudno!  Na NTV Rustavi 2 jos se daje "Troja" Vesti: 00.52 po lok. vremenu: RIA Novosti javlja da je rusko ministarstvo odbrane demantovalo ulazak ruskih trupa u grad Poti 01.06: Sekretar Saveta za Nacionalnu Bezbednost Gruzije, Aleksandar Lomaya je izjavio da trenutno nema borbenih dejstava na teritoriji Gruzije... E, pa Kavkaze moj, dosta za danas... Bas sam naleteo na jednu pesmicu, koju bih mogao da posvetim tom regionu:   |
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« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2008, 11:00:44 pm » |
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Ех како сада цвокоћу зуби онима у Тбилисију.Требали су знати да други крај америчке "демократије" изгледа баш овако.Оставиће их крвавих гаћа на милост и немилост Русима. Буш, поново "осуђује". Изгледа да је Грузијска војска у потпуном расулу, спашава се ко како зна и може.Вјероватно се Руси не замајавају много са заробљеницима.Хоће да покажу примјером свима у окружењу како ће проћи амерички свезници.То нарочито важи за Украјину. |
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« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2008, 08:25:32 am » |
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Saakashvili je u bunkeru, upravo dao intervju BBC-u. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7555352.stmNa NTV Rustavi 2 se ponovo daje film "Troja", mogli su bar za promenu Batu Zivojinovica da puste, da vide kako se postupa sa okupatorom... |
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« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2008, 08:42:22 am » |
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Evo malo "svezih" vesti:
11.17 po lok. vremenu: Abhazija saopstava da su gruzijske snage u klancu Kodori opkoljene
10.33: Interfax javlja da gruzijsko vodjstvo nema informacije o tome da li Rusi nameravaju da udju u Tbilisi
10.25: Gruzijsko Ministarstvo Odbrane saopstava da se ruske snage priblizavaju Tbilisiju
10.19: Interfax javlja da se svi zaposleni u Ukrajinskoj Ambasadi u Tbilisiju evakuisu
10.10: RIA Novosti javlja da gruzijski generalstab nema vise predstavu o dogadjajima, jer su svi radari i centri veze unisteni
10.10: RIA Novosti javlja da je Predsednik Gruzije Mikhail Saakashvili na sednici saveta za nacionalnu bezbednost izjavio da su gruzijski tenkovi upuceni da ponovo zauzmu grad Gori. (RIA Novosti)
09.46: Saakashvili ceka francuskog predsednika Nicolasa Sarkozya, estonskog Hendrika Ilvesa, poljskog Lecha Kaczynskog, kao i ukrajinskog i litvanskog, a pre toga ce se odrzati vanredna sednica gruzijskog parlamenta. Lokacija sednice se ne zna, ali bice TV prenos. Na NTV Rustavi 2 jos uvek ide film "Troja", a ima cak i reklama.
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« Reply #127 on: August 12, 2008, 10:06:35 am » |
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Kraj? Russia 'ends Georgia operation' Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, the Kremlin says. He told officials he had taken the decision to end the operation after restoring security for civilians and peacekeepers in South Ossetia. However, Russia has remained highly critical of Georgia's leadership, and there were no signs of imminent talks. There were fresh reports of Russian bombing on Tuesday, with casualties reported in the Georgian town of Gori. BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7555858.stm |
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« Reply #128 on: August 12, 2008, 12:43:51 pm » |
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Wikipedia je cudo jedno! Najbolja obavestajna sluzba na svetu... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_warEvo i sajt Ageture:http://www.agentura.ru/timeline/2008/abkhasia/ Toliko od mene, over and out!  |
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« Reply #129 on: August 12, 2008, 12:55:29 pm » |
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Rešile baćuške da pokažu ko je gazda,i da je davno prošlo Jeljcinovo doba kada su ih svi zezali.
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« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2008, 05:41:51 pm » |
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ruska profesionalana vojska je dosla do punog izrazaja... a polu-obuceni gruzijci... sem lepih uniformi, nista vise pokazali nisu!!
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« Reply #131 on: August 12, 2008, 05:59:48 pm » |
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Toliko od mene, over and out! Djemo Zastavniče, jesi živ? Da nisu Rusi i do tebe stigli? Ispade na kraju ne uđoše Rusi u Gori, došli ispred, omirisali zasedu i vratili se... |
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« Reply #132 on: August 12, 2008, 07:16:10 pm » |
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Još nešto u vezi povlačenja Gruzijske vojske do grada Mtshketa.
Jedan put do njega (i iza njega Tbilisija) vodi preko Gorija, a drugi kraći vodi preko Leningorija, koji je u Južnoj Osetiji. Povlačenje gruzina može biti vezano za nastupanje Rusa ovim pravcem, čime bi presekli put ka Goriju i odstupnicu. Ipak, iz ovog grada nije stigla nijedna vest do sada. Grad je pre sukoba bio pod Gruzijskom kontrolom, i nalazi se u dugačkom klancu, na kome je glavna prepreka napredovanju.
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« Reply #133 on: August 12, 2008, 08:26:06 pm » |
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Ziv sam, horde Ruskinja nisu dosle po mene! Na moju veliku zalost... Rusi su izgleda zaista obustavili sve vece operacije, pokazali su svetu, a posebno svojoj okolini sta mogu, Amerika nije intervenisala, a Saakashvili moze polako da pakuje stvari iz predsednicke palate. Ko god da ga nasledi, bice ruski pion, cilj ostvaren, Gruzija nece u NATO, onaj naftovod vise nije nezavisan od Rusije, Abhazija i Juzna Osetija osigurane... КОНЕЦ ФИЛЬМА |
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« Reply #134 on: August 12, 2008, 08:45:19 pm » |
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Reci mi samo, ako pratiš, kakvo je raspoloženje u Gruziji prema Sakašviliju?
Video sam veliki miting u Tbilisiju, ali pretpostavljam da je za podršku Gruziji, a ne njemu.
Vidim da su dosta naplašili narod vestima koje nisu tačne.
Šta misliš, kakva će biti reakcija u Gruziji prema njemu kad se sve slegne? Rusi bi izgleda hteli da mu sude, a ni na zapadu ga ne mirišu...
Pretpostavljam da će politička situaciju u Gruziji ostati interna stvar, ali kakve su šanse da neka druga struja preuzme kormilo?
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