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« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2015, 12:10:49 pm » |
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Na slici je naravno, tenk, top liči na 20funtaš sa centuriona, ali sam tenk nije centurion. Možda 90mm?
Zbrku unosi onaj "UAZ 469 Kozlik, sa desne strane.
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« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2015, 12:46:09 pm » |
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@Vlado
Mali OT. KOliko sam čitao, podvozje Leo 2 je bilo predviđeno za 5 tona veču masu od tražene ili bolje rečeno od planirane težine konačne proizvodne verzije. Koliko je bila planirana rezerva težine za M84?
Pošto je prototip vihora koristio kupolu M84, znači predviđalo se da bude težina vihorove kupole tu negde kao na M84?
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« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2015, 12:55:23 pm » |
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Ne znam za težinu Vihorove kupole, ali ukupna težina Vihora trebalo je da bude negde 44,5-45 tona.
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« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2015, 12:56:47 pm » |
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Нови топ калибра 125мм има већу барутну комору и нема евакуатор гасова, зато и збуњује чланове форума.
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« Reply #154 on: March 25, 2015, 01:07:21 pm » |
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To bi trebao biti 2A82 [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] In the 2000th years in Russia the new tank 125-mm gun 2A82 was created. To fall of 2006 from model and two prototypes at "Plant No. 9" managed to make respectively 787, 613 and 554 shots. The system with the autofastened and partially chromeplated trunk is capable to shoot as existing, and perspective ammunition. It surpasses all existing tank guns in a technological level by 1,2-1,25 times. Dulny energy of a gun 2A82 by 1,17 times surpasses the best NATO tool - 120-mm system of the Leopard-2A6 tank, thus length of a pipe of our tool is 60 cm shorter. Fastening the tsapfennykh of holders in a tower is entered by the return wedge. The back support of retractable parts is placed in oboymenny part of a cradle. The mouth of a cradle is extended on 160 mm. In a mouth of a cradle which rigidity is increased, are placed two additional the lyuftovybirayushchikh of the device. Both directing cradles are executed as a prism. The specified actions allowed to reduce average technical dispersion on all types of shells by 15% against tabular values. The gun 2A82 for "Armata" was decided to be modernized, having extended a trunk on the whole meter - to 7m. For the automatic accounting of a bend of the channel of a trunk on dulny part of a pipe of a trunk fastening of a reflector of the device of the accounting of a bend (DAB) is provided. The digital processing of signals accepted in the device provides measurement of necessary parameters of a trunk in the wide range of interfering and operational influences. The obtained data are issued as the amendment in the ballistic calculator that provides increase of accuracy of firing. Under this tool also AZ obmetaniye contour was altered. However it not strongly differs from the standard. New ammunition of BPS "Vakuum-1" by length 900mm was developed for a new gun 2A82. New "Vest" with blasting on a trajectory and URS 3UBK21 "Sprinter" also was developed for the 82nd gun. Further modernization and guns and ammunition is already planned. Germans on the basis of Rh120L55 do an electrothermochemical gun (such is throwing type). On the same way also we very much walk quickly. Within NIR with very speaking names "Lefthander" and "Levsha-M" the first experiments on the ETH-throwing were made. They yielded positive results. The decision to develop this direction is already made using the existing gun of type 2A82. New ammunition for tools 2A82 of the T-14 tank of "Armat" successfully passed state tests in the 2013th year and is accepted on supply. Their mass production, the first party is begun in is accepted by representatives of the Ministry of Defence in the 2013th year and sent to arsenals for formation of standard stocks. By the time of statement on arms of the main tank of Armata family will be created as standard stocks of ammunition, and the current requirement on combat training is provided. Production of guns 2A82 goes at full speed at "Plant No. 9" in Yekaterinburg.
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« Reply #155 on: March 25, 2015, 01:29:58 pm » |
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Ono čudo na snimku je kraće od 2A46, a kamoli od 2A82.
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« Reply #156 on: March 25, 2015, 01:37:01 pm » |
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Možda je samo metalna cev koja je iste težine kao 2A82 da simulira težinu kako rekao Vlado?
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« Reply #157 on: March 25, 2015, 06:07:48 pm » |
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Moguće je i to.
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« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2015, 04:55:43 pm » |
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« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2015, 06:43:00 pm » |
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Meni ovo vise lici na neku varijantu BVP-a nego na tenk.
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« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2015, 07:49:56 pm » |
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POgonski točak je napred.. gde je motor, ispred ili pozadi?
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« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2015, 08:04:21 pm » |
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Ако је ово та (тај) "Армата" ја не том возилу видим ништа револуционарно због чега би се дизала толика "фрка".
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« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2015, 08:53:40 pm » |
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DA ZAVRŠIMO NEPOSTOJEĆU DILEMU. Izvinite na dreci, ali tenk na slici svakako nije "Armata"
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« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2015, 09:00:05 pm » |
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Pa Armata je naziv "familije" vozila, i ovo bi trebalo da bude clan familije, teski BVP, posto Rusi nameravaju da bastarde na sasiji T72 prodaju inostranim kupcima, dok bi za sebe uzimali razlicite stvari na istoj platformi. Tenk se sada zove Objekt xyz, dok bi po nekom pravilu tek posle prihvatanja u sluzbu dobio ime T-xyz.
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« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2015, 10:25:05 pm » |
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Vozilo na gornjoj slici ne da nije Armata, nego nema nijednu TT karakteristiku koja je razlikovala ruski tenk u poslednjih 70 godina od zapadnih tenkova, i ne da su TT karakteristike različite, nego je cela koncepcija potpuno drugačija. Ovo na slici je ko zna šta?
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