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« on: December 19, 2012, 07:49:10 am »

Prilagođena verzija na osnovi otkupljene dokumentacije od Rheinmetall. Tvornička oznaka ovog topa je 53K. Izrađen je prema nacrtima M.V-Loginova.  Uveden u naoružanje Crvene armije 1937. godine. Topovi su bili u upotrebi u prvoj fazi rata. Iskustva su pokazala da njegova probojna moć ne omogučava uspješnu borbu protiv njemačkih tenkova. Mogli su oštetit njemačke tenkove Panzer III i IV - ranije modele, ali sa malih udaljenosti, no onda su dovodili sebe u opasnost. Radi slabe probojne moći je zamijenjen topom M-42 sa dugom cijevi.

Proizvodio se od 1937. do 1943.godine.  Proizvedeno je  37.354 komada.

TT podaci 45mm Model 1937/42

 
-Namjena: protutenkovski  top
-Težina: 0,56t/1.2t
-Kalibar: 45mm; (45x310mm)
-Elevacija:  -8° do  25°
-Max. domet: 4.400m
-Početna brzina granate: 760m/sek
-Brzina gađanja: 15-20/min


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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 07:50:06 am »

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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 04:58:20 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 04:59:50 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 10:47:44 am »

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 04:41:41 pm »


45mm top, tzv. pecaljka za muve (мухоловка). Ipak, 1941. veliki deo PT oruđa bio je upravo ovog tipa i kalibra.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 06:29:39 pm »

Rusi su docekali rat sa ovim topom kao glavnim PT oruzjem i to se pokazalo kao velika slabost.
Njemacke teske tenkove  su mogli unistiti samo iz velike blizine.
Mislim da su ih vrlo brzo zamjenili sa nekim jacim oruzjem.

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 10:20:56 pm »

Probojnost:

Бронепробиваемость брони средней твёрдости, мм
Калиберным бронебойным снарядом
угол встречи 90 градусов от касательной плоскости к броне (по нормали)
на дистанции 500 м : 43
на дистанции 1000 м : 32
угол встречи 60 градусов от касательной плоскости к броне
на дистанции 500 м : 40
на дистанции 1000 м : 28
Подкалиберным бронебойным снарядом
угол встречи 90 градусов от касательной плоскости к броне (по нормали)
на дистанции 500 м: 112
на дистанции 1000 м : 88
на дистанции 1500 м : 66

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2014, 12:51:19 am »


Bio je dobar za borbu protiv PzIII, ali već PzIV je bio veliki problem za ovo topče. A isti top je na drugom lafetu bio osnovno PA oružje brodova RM SSSR u početnom periodu rata. Mož` misliti. Katastrofa, prevaziđena uz ogromne žrtve.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2014, 07:25:04 am »

Rusi su docekali rat sa ovim topom kao glavnim PT oruzjem i to se pokazalo kao velika slabost.
Njemacke teske tenkove  su mogli unistiti samo iz velike blizine.
Mislim da su ih vrlo brzo zamjenili sa nekim jacim oruzjem.

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Bio je osnovno protivtenkovsko oruzje (zajedno sa M-42 u istom kalibru) do kraja rata. Sve zaracene strane su imale osnovna protivtenkovska orudja u slicnom kalibru, pocinjuci od 37 i zavrsavajuci sa 47mm. Bili su sasvim dovoljni da uniste i ostete sve lake i srednje tenkove na dovoljnim daljinama, i veoma lako su se maskirali na polozaju.

Za teze tenkove postojali su drugi protivtenkovski topovi kalibra od oko 57mm i kasnije 76mm, koji su bili tezi, slozeniji za izradu i upotrebu i skuplji kako za izradu, tako i za izradu municije, tako da su bili rasporedjeni na visem nivou jedinica.

Jedan od razloga zasto se 1942 godine ne proizvodi ZIS-2 pored cene i slozenosti izrade je upravo i zato sto je bukvalno pronizavao Pz-I do Pz-IV, t.j. imao je preveliku probojnost protiv njemackoh tenkova. Tek sa uvodjenjem Pz-VI i Pz-V javlja se potreba za tolikom probojnoscu, ali i tada u manjem broju nego sto je potreba za 45mm PT topovima.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2014, 04:27:09 pm »

Ispricavam se jer sam neprecizno napisao na koji top mislim.
Trebao sam napisati da su rat docekali sa M1937 (53-K) kao glavnim PT oruzjem.
Ova tema je u biti postavljena krivo jer M1937 i M1942 nisu isto oruzje.
Jedino zajednicko im je kalibar ali postoje konstrukcijske razlike a i ne koriste istu municiju.

45 mm anti-tank gun M1937 (53-K)

Shell    - 45x310 mm. R

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45 mm anti-tank gun M1942 (M-42)

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