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Author Topic: Akcija "Kozara" - spasavanje oklopa od istorijskog značaja Sd.Kfz.-251/22  (Read 94352 times)
 
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2013, 06:54:03 pm »

Jeli neko kontaktirao ove na Wehrmacht historiju ili to treba da se odradi?

Postoji mogućnost da se onda skupi i neka donacija iz inostranstva kako bi se vozilo dovelo u ispravno stanje.

Da li se moze nekako doci do broja sasije polugusjenicara. To bi omogucilo opredijeliti proizvodjaca tog vozila. (Da ne kazem da bi se doslo do "ratnog puta", iako malo poteze...).

To bi bio pun pogodak. Kada je proizvedeno samo vozilo i kojoj je jedinici isporučeno.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2013, 07:01:46 pm »

Ima ga i ovde, izgleda da je to jedini 251/22 Ausf.D preostao na svetu.

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Sdkfz_251.pdf
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2013, 07:23:14 pm »

Koliko bi moglo da vrijedi u tom slučaju. Neću ga ni prodavati ni kupovati, nego bi taj podatak iznio u emisiji na TV-u.

Kad bi se rekla neka cifra sva stvar bi dobila na značenju.
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2013, 07:28:03 pm »

Ako je poslednji preostali Vlado, onda nema cenu. Isto kao što nemaju cenu Jak-3 ( jedini primerak preostali u celom svetu) i Spitfire Mk Vc sa Vouks filterom ( takođe jedini preostali na celom svetu) u MVJ.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2013, 07:32:21 pm »

Ja nešto mislim da se tom vozilu iz "Kozare" crno piše. Nemojte me pogrešno shvatiti, ali zar mislite da je u državi disfunkcionalnoj kao što je BiH nekome stalo do toga? I da će, tako "skladni", uspjeti da se dogovore oko spašavanja tog vozila? Jedni će ga htjeti u Sarajevu, drugi bi da ostane u Banjoj Luci... i tu će odmah da pukne tikva. Čije je, u stvari, to vozilo? Da li su ti eksponati ušli u sastav zajedničke vojske (što bi bilo besmisleno) ili su ostali u vlasništvu Srpske?
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2013, 08:08:05 pm »

.... za 4.000 KM koga interesira povijest a ni historija - nazalost je takova situacija.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2013, 09:03:59 pm »

Bice dosta tesko utvrditi iz koje je jedinice doslo ovo vozilo, kao prvi problem je to sto se izvesna kolicina (nepoznati broj) Sd.Kfz 251/9 konvertovano u Sd.Kfz 251/22.
Drugi je problem sto su ova vozila uglavnom isla kod oklopnih njemackih divizija, bilo vafen, bilo SS, a takvih na teritoriji Jugoslavije (uglavnom) 1945 godine nije bilo.
E sad, gde, kako i kad se ovaj primerak nasao kod nas, trebace stvarno duboko da ispitujemo. Cheesy
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2013, 09:13:50 pm »

Za one koji ne mogu otvoriti na photobucket-u postaviću komletnu galeriju ovde...

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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2013, 09:15:43 pm »

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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2013, 09:17:35 pm »

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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2013, 09:19:17 pm »

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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2013, 09:21:03 pm »

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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2013, 09:23:05 pm »

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2013, 09:24:12 pm »

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2013, 09:27:54 pm »


 Vredni eksponati! To je kasarna " Kozara"?  Samo, ovoliko korozije nisam video ni u JBB ( JadranskoBrodogradilište Bijela) na najzapuštenijim brodovima.
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