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« on: November 24, 2014, 07:50:36 pm »

Imamo temu o nepoznatom brodu, nepoznatom automatu.. pa da otvorimo i o nepoznatom tenku.


Na slici je kineski tenk. Podvozje izgleda "na temu T-54/T-55" ali mi je nisko. Da nije hidraulika u pitanju? Top je... hmmm... puno pitanja.
Možda ima tko koju informaciju više?

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[简介]中国我唯一重坦——WZ111重坦 上世纪50年代末,中国陆军当时最新型的59式中型坦克只是苏联T-55坦克的许可组装产品,重型坦克也好不到哪儿去,当时我们只有200辆苏式IS-2“约瑟夫-斯大林”型坦克。为彻底更新装甲坦克库,提高军队作战实力,中国领导人在1959-1960年间计划同时研制和量产3种坦克,分别替代62式轻型坦克、59式中型坦克和IS-2[详细]

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 08:00:51 pm »

Upitanju je WZ112

April 1958 and July, the demand of the Communist Party of China Soviet Union promised to give the nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines, the Soviet Union proposed to long-wave radio for military construction in the Chinese territory, and the coalition fleet in China's territorial waters and the Chinese in exchange. China believes that the move violated China's sovereignty, deterioration of Sino-Soviet relations, in order to check the possible Soviet invasion troops, China has stepped up the development of heavy tanks, restraint Soviet Union T-10M and JS-3 tanks.
  In this context, the WZ-112 project is launched. 112 heavy tanks the five crew cab is located in the front part of the central and JS-2 heavy tank, significantly different from the arrangement of tanks cab in front of the left. 112 heavy tank driver on both sides of the space for the battery and shells. Body in front of the power - transmission room, rear turret. An important feature of the tank engine longitudinally mounted, China and the Soviet Union most models tank engines are tapped. The transverse engine allows the overall layout of the tank is more compact, but for some high-power in terms of tank engine, if the engine is longer than the width of the tank, the only longitudinal, have no choice. The 112 tanks fighting compartment at the bottom of the addition of the bottom of the vehicle fuel tank, to increase the maximum stroke of the tank, 400km. Most noteworthy is the new WZ112 tank using a "liquid" device hydraulic transmission device, hydraulic control device and adjustable liquid-gas suspension, at a time when China's technological level, but off, and therefore failed to achieve tanks volume production.
  This tank is used 120MM HuaTangBao, The amazing mass destruction, some students say this tank 152MM cannon version of the truth of the claim is not high, because the lower the level of China's industrial turret technology Russia did not teach too large caliber artillery, make turret fly out, the idea WZ112 with 152 guns, we just laughed like!


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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 08:40:01 pm »

Malo se okrene tenk i ne prepoznam ga. Pričali o tom tenku u jednoj temi, ostao mi u sečanju zbod duplog PAM.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 10:50:07 pm »


Imao sam problem da ovo pročitam. Ni posle čitanja ne mogu biti siguran koji je to zapravo jezik. Liči na engleski, ali...
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 11:03:39 pm »

Sam pročitao tekst iznad @Bozine fotke.Radi se o nekoj ceremoniji na groblju u Kini.Prisutan je jedan američki visoki dužnosnik.Kinezi stavljaju zdjelice sa rižom na grob.Američki dužnosnik da ih podhebe kaže:"kad će ovaj vaš ustati da poklopa rižu".Kinez do njega sa onako mirnom facom mu kaže:"kad Vaš ustane da pomiriše cvijeće".

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2014, 08:00:17 am »

Oprostite @Bozo,

htio sam ukazati na razlike u civilizacijskim tekovinama,na osnovu za nas nerazumljivosti Kineskog teksta.I ako se radi o istoj vrsti,i manje razlike izazivaju čak i ratove,te pogibije tko zna koliko nevinih ljudi,a radi se o suštinski istim ljudima.Inače,sa tenkom nema veze,pa Vas molim da izbrišete oba ova moje teksta.

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2014, 12:15:38 pm »

Na slici je WZ 121
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 12:49:35 pm »

Да још мало закомпликујемо ствари  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 02:41:50 pm »


Imao sam problem da ovo pročitam. Ni posle čitanja ne mogu biti siguran koji je to zapravo jezik. Liči na engleski, ali...

JEzik je prevod s kineskom koji sam pokupio, ja ga nisam prevodio, ali se i iz ovako nakaradnog može ponešto zaključiti...

Na slici je WZ 121

@Barte WZ 121 je poznatiji kao T69/79 bazairan je na Ruskom T-54A (Sovjetskom) i "spada" u klasu srednjih tenkovo.

Dok je na slici WZ 112 rađen po uzoru na  Ruski IS-2 i klasifikuju ga kao teški tenk...
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 09:44:48 am »

Да још мало закомпликујемо ствари  Grin
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T95E8 sa dizel motorom...


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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 09:49:41 am »


Imao sam problem da ovo pročitam. Ni posle čitanja ne mogu biti siguran koji je to zapravo jezik. Liči na engleski, ali...

JEzik je prevod s kineskom koji sam pokupio, ja ga nisam prevodio, ali se i iz ovako nakaradnog može ponešto zaključiti...

Na slici je WZ 121

@Barte WZ 121 je poznatiji kao T69/79 bazairan je na Ruskom T-54A (Sovjetskom) i "spada" u klasu srednjih tenkovo.

Dok je na slici WZ 112 rađen po uzoru na  Ruski IS-2 i klasifikuju ga kao teški tenk...

Zanimljivo je to da  ne postoji sacuvan primerak WZ121...(svi su unisteni u kineskim nuklearnim probama,a proizveden je u seriji od 120 komada)to ime je kasnije dato drugom tenku koji si gore pomenuo..i ako se ne varam nosio je oznaku WZ-121D...a koji nema nikakvih dodirnih tacaka sa prvobitnim WZ121...
Dok je po uzoru na ruski IS-2..radjen IS-2U...sa ojacanim ceonim plocama...
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 12:46:48 pm »

Kad sam malo bolje pogledao..nije nista od navedenih tenkova..u pitanju je WZ122...i ostro oko,ponekad zna da prevari...u pitanju su detaljcici..
121 ima izmenjen oblik spoljnih rezervoara za gorivo,a koji jako lice na ove sa WZ122...eto,to me je prevarilo...


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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 07:56:49 pm »

Kineski VBR 122 mm na šasiji tenka.. Ako može tko reči koja je to šasija tenka.

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2014, 09:46:30 pm »

http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.it/2011/10/phz89-122mm-multiple-rocket-launcher.html

The PHZ89 is mounted on the Type 321 tracked chassis is essentially a modified version of the Chinese Type 85 Armored Personnel Carrier (YW 531H).
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2014, 09:52:03 pm »

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