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« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2022, 05:31:08 pm »

Po bespućima neta naletio na sugestije da bi ovo mogao biti brod iza Moskve...?

Je, to je taj u nekakvom pokušaju gašenja.
Vidi se i u onom kratkom videu.

A to je to, sve je objašnjeno.

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« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2022, 06:00:58 pm »

Mene osobno gubitak Moskve podsjeca na gubitak HMS Hood-a u WWII. Prestizni brod po velicini, za posjete stranim lukama i pokazivanje zastave kako se to kaze. Brz , dobro naoruzan ali sa nedovoljnim oklopom. Jednostavno je bio na krivom mjestu u krivo vrijeme. Rezultat se zna.
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« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2022, 07:06:45 pm »

Ma, vojno nikakav gubitak osim one da se prazne puške dvojica boje.
Psihološki jako velik, plus šta će protivnik to max. iskoristiti.

Valjda će isplivati još poneki snimak.
Jedino je nejasno gdje je nestalo olujno more.

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« Reply #103 on: April 20, 2022, 07:38:56 am »

Mene osobno gubitak Moskve podsjeca na gubitak HMS Hood-a u WWII. Prestizni brod po velicini, za posjete stranim lukama i pokazivanje zastave kako se to kaze. Brz , dobro naoruzan ali sa nedovoljnim oklopom. Jednostavno je bio na krivom mjestu u krivo vrijeme. Rezultat se zna.

Оклоп брода у класичном смислу није кључна ствар још од Мидвеја. Ни "Кирови" немају "цитаделну заштиту", већ оклоп око 50мм на воденој линији и "екранирање" појединих делова трупа и палубе, заједно са одсецима ПТ заштите дела бокова.
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« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2022, 04:05:55 pm »

Moskva je tokom rata u Gruziji, čini mi se, popila neku raketu.
Na netu ne mogu naći čime je pogođena, zna li netko podatak?

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« Reply #105 on: April 20, 2022, 04:17:44 pm »

Moskva je tokom rata u Gruziji, čini mi se, popila neku raketu.
Na netu ne mogu naći čime je pogođena, zna li netko podatak?

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Nešto si permutovao , nije u pitanju " Moskva"


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« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2022, 04:21:34 pm »

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In August 2008, in support of the Russian invasion of Georgia, Moskva was deployed to secure the Black Sea.[20][21] During a brief surface engagement, the Georgian Navy scored one missile hit on Moskva before being overwhelmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Moskva
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« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2022, 04:30:02 pm »

the Georgian Navy scored

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Black Sea Fleet sailed towards the Georgian coast on August 10, the tiny Georgian navy rushed to meet them. The battle was fierce, but the outcome essentially was pre-determined. A handful of short-range small patrol boats stood no chance against the Russian fleet. Despite reportedly scoring one missile hit on the cruiser Moskva, the Georgians were overwhelmed, and the patrol boat Georgiy Toreli was sunk by an SS-N-9 missile.

What happened next is even more tragic. When the Russian army seized the port city of Poti, they destroyed many of the surviving Georgian boats at their moorings. The anonymous Russian Navy Blogger recalls the vessels’ fates:

Georgian Navy's Cruel Fate
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« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2022, 04:47:50 pm »


Wikipedia baš i nije neki pouzdan izvor za ovo. Gore ima tekst ruskog publiciste, gde se uopšte ne pominje ni Moskva ni njeno oštećenje.
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« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2022, 04:55:20 pm »


Wikipedia baš i nije neki pouzdan izvor za ovo. Gore ima tekst ruskog publiciste, gde se uopšte ne pominje ni Moskva ni njeno oštećenje.

Naravno...ako se ode na ukrajinski prevod stranice ovog linka koji je @Soaris postavio, i oni pominju navodni pogodak u gruzijskom ratu, pozivajući se na isti ovaj izvor koji sam objavio iznad. Sve u svemu čak zvanično nepotvrđene informacije Gruzije,  već ....
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