MiG-29

[dexy]

Dok sam pisao pvanja me prestigao i odgovorio na sva važna pitanja
Da se ne baci ni moj post evo da ga postavim, nije zgoreg

Napisali su Fulcrum D, a to je NATO oznaka za MiG-29K i još je navedeno da su u pitanju palubni lovci. Međutim, ono što je sporno u tekstu je cena za ovaj broj letelica, jer po onome što se može videti na netu, cena ovog aviona sa rezervnim delovima i tehničkom podrškom izlazi na oko 46 miliona dolara. Kada se to pomnoži sa 20 koliko je poručeno, vidi se da je cena navedena u tekstu dosta niska.
Ovaj tip aviona se proizvodi za indijsku ratnu mornaricu i već je počela isporuka prvih primeraka, a govorka se da bi ovi avioni mogli da zamene Su-33 na ruskom nosaču aviona posle 2011. pošto suhojima ističu resursi. Imajući u vidu sve ovo, očigledno je da proizvodna linija radi, ali očigledno samo za ovaj model, jer bi u suprotnom Mjanmar verovatno kupio neku drugu varijantu a ne palubnu.

[80sBoy]

28 сентября 2009 года МиГ-29К (изделие 9-41) совершил первую посадку на палубу авианесущего крейсера «Адмирал Кузнецов» следом сел МиГ-29КУБ.

Prvo sletanje je  obavio Pavel Vlasov,a kako je to izgledalo mozete videti na donjem linku.

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[pvanja]

Napisali su Fulcrum D, a to je NATO oznaka za MiG-29K i još je navedeno da su u pitanju palubni lovci. Međutim, ono što je sporno u tekstu je cena za ovaj broj letelica, jer po onome što se može videti na netu, cena ovog aviona sa rezervnim delovima i tehničkom podrškom izlazi na oko 46 miliona dolara. Kada se to pomnoži sa 20 koliko je poručeno, vidi se da je cena navedena u tekstu dosta niska.

Moguce je da se radi o ceni samog aviona bez "dodatne opreme"

Salu na stranu mozda je ovo cena za sam avion bez rezervnih delova, obuke, oruzja.
To ce verovatno kasnije ugovoriti.

Samo da potsetim da su ovu cifru spominjali i nasi kada su govorili o nabavci aviona kao najmanjoj cifri, a tada su spominjali eskadrilu od 14-20 aviona.

[trpe grozni]

Izgleda da je ipak u pitanju SMT verzija, moguce bivse alzirske 29-ke

Russia signs deal with Myanmar to supply 20 MiG-29 fighters
Last Updated: Dec 23, 2009

The MiG-29 SMT fighter aircraft.
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MOSCOW (BNS): Russia has signed over a $600 million contract with Myanmar under which it will supply 20 MiG-29 fighter aircraft and other weapons to that country, Russian news agency Intefax reported on Wednesday.

“The basis of this package is a contract for supply to Myanmar 20 MiG-29SMT,” the agency said quoting a military-diplomatic source here.

The deal would also include supply of helicopters and other military products to the Southeast Asian nation, the source said.

The military-ruled Myanmar had bought 12 MiG-29 fighters from Russia in 2001.

The Russian bid to supply the MiG-29 Fulcrum-D carrier-based fighter aircraft beat China's offer to sell its latest J-10 and FC-1 fighters, a Myanmanrese news daily said.

Link http://www.brahmand.com

[dexy]

25.02.2010.

Malezija ipak neće penzionisati sve svoje MiG-29 kojih ima 16 komada, zbog toga što trenutno nema dovoljno sredstava za nabavku novih letelica koje bi popunile tu prazninu. Zbog toga će oko 10 malezijskih MiG-29 ostati u upotrebi i narednih 5 godina. Šest ih je već povučeno iz upotrebe.
Pretjodno je najavljeno povlačenje zbog troškova održavanja koji su iznosili oko 76 miliona dolara na godišnjem nivou.

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Malaysia to keep some MiG-29s, delay choice on replacement fighters
By Leithen Francis

Malaysia's defence minister has revealed that the country will delay phasing out its RSK MiG-29s and that, as a consequence of this policy change, it will delay buying new fighters.

Ahmad Hamidi stated publicly several times in 2009 that Malaysia planned to phase out its MiG-29s at the end of 2010. However, the air force will now "keep around 10 MiG-29s for at least the next five years", the minister's spokesman confirms.

Six MiG-29s have already been decommissioned, but Aerospace Technology System will be contracted to maintain the other 10. Formerly called Malaysian Russian Aviation Services, the company is already responsible for maintaining the air force's MiG-29s.

The decision to keep the current type operational means Malaysia's plan to purchase new multirole combat aircraft has been put on hold until the economic situation improves, according to remarks made by the defence minister.

Last year, he said Kuala Lumpur would decommission its MiG-29s because they are costing 260 million ringgit ($76 million) a year to maintain. The fleet could be sold to a third-world country, he added.

But Ahmad's comments caught the attention of Dr Mahathir Mohammad, who was Malaysia's prime minister when the MiG-29s joined the air force fleet in 1995. Writing on his widely read blog, he noted that the aircraft are less than 20 years old and that other countries such as India still operate MiG-29s, and questioned why Malaysia would need to phase them out.

Mahathir also said the government's move to publicly condemn the MiG-29 as too expensive to maintain would only end up costing it more money when it tried to sell them.

Izvor: Flightglobal

[pvanja]

@dexy

Sta je konkretan problem sa ovim 29-tkama, tj zasto im je toliko skupo i problematicno odrzavanje ?

[dexy]

I oni imaju svoj SDPR, grupaciju kompanija preko koje moraju da idu sve vojne nabavke. Dakle kada su potrebni recimo delovi za MiG-29N, vojska te delove ne kupuje od kompanije MiG, već od ovog posrednika, koji te delove nalazi na tržištu kako se već snađe, i uzima veeeliki kajmak.

Bilo kako bilo, evo nekoliko fotografija tih aviona:
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[dexy]

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[pvanja]

Odlicne slike dexy

[Rade]

Moldavija prodaje avione MiG-29


04.09.2010.
Interfax

U govoru povodom Dana nacionalne armije Moldavije, ministar odbrane Moldavije je izjavio da Moldavija nije uspela da pronadje kupce za svojih 6 aviona MiG-29.

Na pitanje novinara o ceni, ministar odbrane nije uspeo da odgovori, tj. dao je objašnjenje da cena još uvek nije odredjena, te da će se ona odrediti čim se prijave bar dva potencijalna kupca. Moldavija očekuje da dobije cenu od najmanje milion dolara po letelici. Ukoliko ne uspeju da ih prodaju, avioni će biti kanibalizovani i rashodovani.

Raniji izveštaji svedočili su o 32 aviona MiG-29 u sastavu moldavskog RV, od kojih je jedan predat Rumuniji na ime dugova, 4 su proidata Jemenu i 21 avion je prodato SAD-u.

Avioni su prodati SAD-u 1999. godine, za 40 miliona dolara u gotovini i naoružanju i opremi. nakon dolaska Komuističke partije na vlast, tadašnji ministar odbran, koji je potpisao prodaju aviona, uhapšen je i osudjen na 10 godina zatvora. Od 10 godina, odležao je dve. Sada je predsednik Partije humanista i kandidat za predsednika države.

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[ZastavnikDjemo]

Evo i kratke istorije MiG-29 u RV Moldavije kroz oko kamere:
http://www.photo.md/news_info.php?news_id=1148&lang=rus
http://www.photo.md/news_info.php?news_id=1018&lang=rus

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[Bozo13]

Meni jedna od najlepših maskirnih shema na Mig 29