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« Reply #330 on: April 16, 2015, 09:24:59 pm »

Oznake aviona F-86D-11, -16, -21, -26, -31, -36 i -41 sistemska su promenjena oznaka za avione fabrike North American posle izvršenih modifikacija. Pa je naprimer F-86D-10 posle modifikacije označen kako F-86D-11. ........................................
Delimično tačno:
"North American F-86D-10-NA Sabre, postaje North American F-86L-11-NA Sabre"
to je objašnjeno ovde:
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"In the mid 1950s, it was decided to adapt the F-86D to the new SAGE system, and in 1956, 2192 conversion kits were ordered for the F-86Ds of the Air Defense Command (ADC). Under a project code-named Project Follow-On, starting in May of 1956, certain low-time F-86D interceptors were withdrawn one-by-one from service and fitted with the upgrade. This work was done at North American plants in Fresno and Inglewood, California. Following the upgrade, they were redesignated F-86L. All F-86L block designations were changed to reflect their original F-86D block numbers. The F-86D-10 to F-86D-45 became F-86L-11 to F-86L-46, but blocks 50, 55, and 60 just changed the type from D to L, that is, the F-86D-50 became F-86L-50."

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http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_18.html

Dalje:
"Project Pullout" (negde se vodi i ako "Project Pull-Oout") počeo marta 1954. - zavšen septembra 1955.godine
"1954. This program cost $100 million and covered 1,128 F-86Ds which needed up to three hundred changes to correct each aircraft."

- i tada ti avioni nisu menjali osnovne oznake serije već su dovođeni na aktuelni standard D-40 ili D-45. Dakle to su bili Lovci-presretači F-86D sa unapređenim sistemom E-4, i sa novo primenjenom tehnologijom koja otklanja letne i ekspoloatacione probleme, koji su zadavali glavobolju pilotima i logistici.

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U 1957 godini neki od tih avion prošli su još jednu modifikaciju (projekat SAGE) na standard F-86L (modifikacija na polu-automatsko navođenje na cilj pomoću radarskog sistema SAGE).
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Da, to je tako značajna modifikacija da je avion dobio oznaku nove varijenta, dakle postaje F-86L. Međutim to je bio "Project Follow-On" koji startuje od maja 1956. - završen 1957.godine.
U zavisnosti od serije na kojoj je vršena modernizacija, blokovi su dobijali oznake kako sam naveo u gornjem postu, da to ne ponavljam.

Znači nije problem u tome što je F-86D-40-NA postao F-86L-41-NA, već kako je nastao:

"F-86D-41-NA", odnosno "F-86D-36-NA"

Da li smo sada razumeli moju nedoumicu?

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« Reply #331 on: April 17, 2015, 10:43:05 am »

Da, tačno je, u žurbi napisao sam pogrešno naziv programa pod kojim je vođena modernizacija na standard L. Program se pravilno zove "Follow up". Hvala na ispravki!

U vezi modernizacija u toku programa "Pull Out", u kome su standardizirali različite verzije D, modernizacija sa FCS E-4 u stvari je napravljena na manjem delu aviona, pošto je taj FCS bio standardan već od podserije D-5. Modernizacija je za one ranije serije bila puno veća nego za one kasnije na kojima su pojedini sistemi bili već bili na nivou serije D-45.
Što se tiče serija F-86D-36-NA i F-86D-41-NA, objasnio sam, da su i te verzije prošle kroz program Pull Out u kojima jim je promenjena oznaka serije sa D-35 i D-45 na D-36 i D-41.

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« Reply #332 on: April 19, 2015, 02:42:48 am »

Dobro, rešili smo problem
 



Uvek se treba pozvati na  pravilo

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« Reply #333 on: April 19, 2015, 07:45:06 am »

Pleso ;

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« Reply #334 on: May 30, 2015, 07:48:42 pm »

Naš F-86D, najverovatnije 14094, sa ostatcima zaprečne mreže. Zna li ko o čemu se ovde radi?

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« Reply #335 on: June 16, 2015, 04:51:28 pm »

to je 14084 a mreze su bile na krajevima PSS-a
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« Reply #336 on: June 17, 2015, 08:48:48 am »

to je 14084 a mreze su bile na krajevima PSS-a
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« Reply #337 on: July 23, 2015, 12:48:23 pm »

Nije naš, ali je prelep.

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« Reply #338 on: July 23, 2015, 02:39:20 pm »

Ovu nisam primijetio, vježba "presretanja" (današnji  Air Policing) i adrijin DC 6....

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« Reply #339 on: August 24, 2015, 09:44:45 pm »

11118 kao FAH 3002. Na žalost fotografije su očajnog kvaliteta.

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Još jedna napravljena istom prilikom samo iz drugog ugla.

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« Reply #340 on: September 15, 2015, 10:49:12 am »

Sea Fury.

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« Reply #341 on: September 17, 2015, 11:40:22 am »

ovaj Sea Fury sleteo na nosac ,,Koralno more,, a moj u vitrinu
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« Reply #342 on: September 20, 2015, 09:18:16 pm »

Da li si imao mogućnosti ovako da ga naoružaš
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FJ-4B (AF-1 E) Fury

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« Reply #343 on: September 21, 2015, 05:48:39 am »

ma Ljubo volem tip-tankove da se duze vozam
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« Reply #344 on: October 10, 2015, 08:24:36 am »

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