North American Aviation F-86 Sabre

[Bozo13]

@Carlos P61

From before written post in this topic i found this information

11059
c/n 483
RAF XB697 Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19583d/d 04.05.1953.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
to USAF13.06.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-xxx,to 11059
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3001 (ili 3010)

11077
c/n 574
RAF XB820 Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19674d/d 01.03.1954.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
to USAF20.09.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-xxx,to 11077
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3002 (ili 3009) (*)

11079
c/n 581
RAF XB827 Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19681d/d 17.08.1953.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
to USAF25.05.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-017,to 11079
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3003 (ili 3008) (*)

11086
c/n 625
RAF XD724Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19725d/d xx.xx.1953.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
USAF 52-10195d/d 17.08.1953.F-86E-6-CAN
to Yugoslav AF as 06-xxx,to 11086
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3004 (ili 3007 ?)

11094
c/n 662
RAF XD760 Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19762d/d xx.xx.1953.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
USAF 52-10215d/d 30.09.1953.F-86E-6-CAN
to Yugoslav AF as 06-xxx,to 11094
to HondurasAFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3005

11097
c/n 67
4RAF XB886 Sabre F4
Ex RCAF 19774d/d 17.08.1953.CL-13 Sabre Mk 4
to USAF03.07.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-050,to 11097
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3006

11006
c/n 721
RAF XB934 Sabre F4
Ex RAF XB958d/d 30.09.1953.
to USAF17.07.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-047,to 11106
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3007 (ili 3006)

11118
c/n 769
RAF XB978 Sabre F4
Ex RAF XD117d/d 21.12.1953.
to USAF29.05.1957.xx-xxxxx
to Yugoslav AF as 06-023,to 11118
to Honduras AFxx.07.1976.,to FAH 3002


10195
c/n 625
RCAF 19725 to RAF as XD724
To Yugoslavian AF as JRV 11086
To Honduras AF as FAH 3004 in 1976.

10215
c/n 662
RCAF 19762 to RAF as XD760
To Yugoslavian AF as JRV 11094
To Honduras AF as FAH 3005 in 1976.




Next info:

1976. godine su prodati Hondurasu sledećih 8 aviona:
11059 (FAH 3010 – ne 3001);
11077 (FAH 3009 – ne 3002);
11079 (FAH 3008 – ne 3003);
11086 (FAH 3007 – ne 3004);
11094 (FAH 3005 ?);
11097 (FAH 300?);
11106 (FAH 3006 – ne 3007)
11118 (FAH 3002 – ne 3008).

Što se tiče aviona F-86 koji su završili u Hondurasu:

FAH 3001   n/a   n/a   1976   n/a
FAH 3002 ex-JRV 11118 stored at San Pedro Sula
FAH 3003   n/a   n/a   1976   n/a
FAH 3004   n/a   n/a   1976   n/a
FAH 3005 ex-JRV 11094 stored at San Pedro Sula
FAH 3006 ex-JRV 11106 preserved at Museo del Aire
FAH 3007 ex-JRV 11086 stored at San Pedro Sula
FAH 3008 ex-JRV 11079 stored at San Pedro Sula
FAH 3009 ex-JRV 11077 stored at San Pedro Sula
FAH 3010 ex-JRV 11059 stored at San Pedro Sula

Izgleda da ih je ipak 10 komada otišlo u Honduras, s tim da su dva verovatno dobila VE brojeve FAH, ali su iskorišteni za rezervne delove.

E još da utvrdimo koja su ta dva i koji je broj imao 11097 u njihovoj službi. Ovo sam iskombinovao pomoću podataka koje je postavio TNT024 i podataka sa ove stranice:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/honduras/Honduras-af-F86.htm

Nije nešto, ali opet...može da posluži za dalje istraživanje.

So basically delta between 8 and 10 planes was this 2 from Canadian AF

10195 (c/n 625) and 10215 (c/n 662)


Hope i help a little

BR Bozo

[Carlos P61]

Bozo 13,

Thank you very much for the data, which is very useful to my historical research.

I'm very interested in photos of the ten F-86E (M) acquired by Honduras during their Yugoslavian service, if that would be possible (some of which are depicted in this topic).

I have noticed a photo of F-86E(M) FAH-3001 at Key West Florida, shortly before the ferry flight to Honduras (arrived on August 10, 1976), which curiously depicts a different livery from the remaining nine aircraft.

Whatever additional information you may have (or other forum members), will be appreciated.

Pozdrav,

Carlos

[Bozo13]

I'm here (in this topic) only for number, but here are few other members who could give You more details or even pics that you need.

BRB

[Љуба]

ZuluDelta:

Legende odlaze, preminuo pilot Zdenko Babić

 Odlaze piloti koji su na neki način obilježili ranu eru mlaznog zrakoplovstva JRZ .

    Zdenko Babić jedan od pilota koji su bili među prvima na preobuci za F-86E Sabre ispisuje svoje letove plavim visinama .

    U subotu 7.7.12. u moru mu je otkazalo pilotsko srce nakon čega je preminuo, samo kratko kao napomena , Zdenko Babić je VI.klasa ŠAOA rođen 13.12.1930. svoje prve letove napravio je u AK..Slavonskom Brodu na jedrilicama , letio je 26 različitih tipova aviona, umirovljen u činu ppukovnika koji je imao 11 godina.

    Počivaj u miru prijatelju stari, puno će mi faliti uvijek zanimljiv i ugodan razgovor s tobom, naći ćemo se gore negdje i nastaviti zanimljiv razgovor.

    Obitelji Babić moja duboka sućut





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Evo dragi prijatelju posthumno si ipak dobio satisfakciju upisano u knjizi eminentnog stručnjaka za avijaciju

uživaj u plavim visinama do našeg susreta

S poštovanjem tvoj ZD




Мислим да се "ZuluDelta" неће љутити што сам употребио његов цитат. Али мислим да је место да се овде ова вест објави.

Љуба

[Carlos P61]

Bozo 13,

Thank you very much.

Cheers,

Carlos

[MOTORISTA]

Hmmm....


11059-3010
11079-3009
11079-3008
11086-3007
11106-3006
11094-3005
11097-3004
11xxx-3003
11118-3002
11xxx-3001

to bi trebalo da bude ovakav spisak.

[Carlos P61]

MOTORISTA,

Hvala prijatelju moj

Cheers,

Carlos

[MOTORISTA]

De nada mi amigo. Todo lo que necesitamos ahora son números de FAH 3001 y FAH 3003.

[Carlos P61]

MOTORISTA,

En efecto, son los números que aún faltan por averiguar. Cabe mencionar, que uno de ellos - supuestamente el 3003 - se encuentra en el Museo Nacional Aeronáutico y del Espacio, ubicado en Santiago de Chile; mientras que el otro, se estrelló en Octubre de 1978.

Saludos cordiales,

Carlos


Res je, da so številke še ne določijo. Treba je omeniti, da je eden od njih - verjetno 3003 - se nahaja na National Museum of Air and Space, ki se nahajajo v Santiagu v Čilu, medtem ko je drugi zaletel v oktobru 1978.

Lep pozdrav,

Carlos

[MOTORISTA]

Res je, da so številke še ne določijo. Treba je omeniti, da je eden od njih - verjetno 3003 - se nahaja na National Museum of Air and Space, ki se nahajajo v Santiagu v Čilu, medtem ko je drugi zaletel v oktobru 1978.

Lep pozdrav,

Carlos

Hmmm...in Santiago is FAH 3006

http://www.museoaeronautico.gob.cl/espanol/colecciones2.php?p=3&n=12#

[Carlos P61]

Greetings MOTORISTA,

As far as my research is concerned, the 'real' FAH-3006 is at the Museo del Aire de Honduras in Tegucigalpa, and I have a photo of the Canadier ID plate which reads: BUILT BY CANADAIR LTD., MONTREAL
MODEL: F-86E CONTRACT N.: 1365  SERIAL: 19821 UNDER LICENSE FROM NORTH AMERICAN AVIATION

Please check the following photos, showing the real '3006' in Tegucigalpa, and of the fake one in Chile:

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=%3D%22canadair+cl-13+sabre%22&airlinesearch=&countrysearch=&specialsearch=&keywords=Tegucigalpa&sort_order=photo_id+desc&page_limit=15&daterange=&range=&thumbnails=&engine_version=6.0

If you wish to send me your e-mail address, I could attach photos of the fake '3006' I took at the Museo Nacional de Aeronáutica y del Espacio when I visited Santiago de Chile in October 2007. I could also send an Excel document they provided me with, which lists their aircraft collection, which needless to say, no data is recorded for their '3006'.

I recently requested the MNAE in Chile, information from documents they may have related to this aircraft, which as you know, was a donation to Chile by the FAH.

Cheers,

Carlos

[MOTORISTA]

Thank you Carlos.

[leopard]

Kao sto sam obecao.evo F-86D koji trune u kasarni u Kicevo.Evidencioni broj(ako nije skroz izbledeo) zamolicu da ga slikaju.

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[MOTORISTA]

Kao sto sam obecao.evo F-86D koji trune u kasarni u Kicevo.Evidencioni broj(ako nije skroz izbledeo) zamolicu da ga slikaju.

Hvala ti Leoparde. Ukoliko je VE broj izbledeo, neka pogledaju u otvor stajnog trapa prednje noge, tu bi trebalo da se nalazi pločica sa fabričkim brojem i imenom proizvođača, modelom letelice itd...

[ZuluDelta]

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Pozdrav ZD